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INTO THIN AIR (New York bound couple vanish)
New York Post ^ | 12-11-2003 | C.J. SULLIVAN, JAMIE SCHRAM and DAN KADISON

Posted on 12/11/2006 4:04:09 AM PST by Cagey

Edited on 12/11/2006 5:00:16 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

A retired city sanitation worker and his wife mysteriously vanished while driving from South Carolina to visit their family in Queens.

Wayne Guay, 57, and his wife, Dianne, 55, are believed to have left their house early Thursday in Myrtle Beach, where they retired after living for years in Ridgewood, Queens. But their desperate daughter Megan Guay yesterday said the pair - who have three children and two grandkids - never arrived at her sister's home in Ridgewood.


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To: corlorde

AGREED!!! I keep a gun in every car.


21 posted on 12/11/2006 4:58:21 AM PST by liberty or death
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To: cricket
(Would check with a good psychic as well)

I hope you are kidding.

22 posted on 12/11/2006 5:04:36 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra
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To: Cagey
I-95 in the DC area can become confusing when intersecting with the Beltway

Understatement of the Year! Especially while driving 70MPH and you have to read three overhead signs at the same time to figure out which lane you need to be in.

23 posted on 12/11/2006 5:04:52 AM PST by rabidralph (The pajama-wetters are at it again.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Psychics have been of help in solving cases before. What would they have to lose?


24 posted on 12/11/2006 5:05:59 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: corlorde
And yet, we are suppose to keep our guns at home while traveling from state to state. Not me, I'll risk it.

Much to be said for being 'forearmed'; we certainly receive more than enough 'forewarnings'. . .

25 posted on 12/11/2006 5:14:53 AM PST by cricket
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To: TangoLimaSierra; alicewonders
I hope you are kidding.

Not kidding; and alicewondersIf nothing else; just think of it as someone whose eyesight may be better than 'ours'. . .someone who does not require 'night-vision' goggles. . .to see in the dark.

26 posted on 12/11/2006 5:20:16 AM PST by cricket
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To: alicewonders; TangoLimaSierra
oops. . .to be 'clear'. . .that was supposed to read. . .

'Alice is right' (!)

27 posted on 12/11/2006 5:23:17 AM PST by cricket
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To: alicewonders
"Psychics have been of help in solving cases before. What would they have to lose?"

Psychics are bunk. They prey on the desperate and grieving.

28 posted on 12/11/2006 5:25:47 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra
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To: Quilla

I remember a similar situation years and years ago. Seven years or so after the parents disappeared a highway worker just happened to come across the vehicle down in a ditch-like area and found them inside.


29 posted on 12/11/2006 5:26:15 AM PST by synbad600
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To: TangoLimaSierra; cricket
Psychics are bunk. They prey on the desperate and grieving.

Unfortunately, you are right in many cases. There are many people conned by such frauds, but I do believe there are people that have a special gift of intuitivity, or whatever you would call it. My mother & I have experienced it ourselves, I have just stayed away from it myself - not something I want to do. But I have had things come to me in dreams and sudden thoughts that have turned out to be true, things I would have no other way of knowing.

Some psychics have helped police departments solve crimes that otherwise would have gone unsolved. Do not discount it so quickly.

30 posted on 12/11/2006 5:34:38 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: cricket
can cell-phones be tracked if they are on turned off or can they just be 'on' or must the phone be in use in order to track it. . .

Many of the newer cell phones have GPS chips in them but I believe they do have to be on and I know that mine has a setting that allows me to turn the GPS signal on or off.

Speaking of Newark, the murder count for this year just passed 100 a couple of days ago which is the highest in many years.

31 posted on 12/11/2006 5:36:14 AM PST by Cagey
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To: cricket

I'm originally from Yonkers NY eight miles from the GW Bridge. On our way to Virginia Beach years ago my friends and I accidentally got off the Washington Heights exit (horriable area of the Bronx). I mean really we have been traveling this route our whole life and look what we did. This is a scary story indeed.


32 posted on 12/11/2006 5:47:37 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: alicewonders
"Some psychics have helped police departments solve crimes that otherwise would have gone unsolved. Do not discount it so quickly."

I can assure you that I have not discounted this subject quickly. I have studied this for years as a have many others and when psychic successes are dissected there are logical resons for what was found.

I have no doubt you believe what you had were paranormal experiences. I refer you to James Randi's site debunking this stuff at http://www.randi.org

I don't expect you to embrace the skeptic view but you may find some interesting points there. Thanks for the discussion.

33 posted on 12/11/2006 5:52:10 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (PC kills.)
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To: Cagey

WE know the model of the car, and the gas tank capacity..assume that like most people starting a long trip, they filled the car just before they left. We have an estimate of the MPH the car gets on the highway, and thus we can figure otu the farthest they could have driven before refueling, and everyone pays with a credit crad these days..since their cards haven't been used, one has to strongly suspect foul play, or an acident. Sadly, I fear the first option..


34 posted on 12/11/2006 5:52:50 AM PST by ken5050
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Psychics are bunk. They prey on the desperate and grieving.

No question that many do. But no reason to 'throw the baby out, with the bath water'. There are gifted and 'good' psychics out there; albeit, no guaranteesas to their assistance; but an extra if not 'extra-sensory' opinion can be helpful; and in many situations/cases; it is documented that they have been just that.

No much different than stopping to ask directions or having someone take a look at the map you have; whereby you might be missing something. . .

35 posted on 12/11/2006 6:02:27 AM PST by cricket
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Thanks for the information, I'll check it out. It is good to be a skeptic, most people that claim to do this are frauds & only in it for the money. I'm not saying so much that I've had paranormal experiences - I believe it's more a matter of some people having a highly tuned intuitive skill. I believe your subconscious picks up on more than your conscious does & sorts it out & makes sense of it, mine seems to happen when I am totally relaxed & asleep. Flashes of insight, I guess would be more accurate than "seeing the future".

Like I said, it's not something I care to delve into - I think you could get into some real trouble - I think people who try to communicate with the dead & such - sometimes get a lot more than they bargain for. It's like opening a window - you never know who's going to enter it, sometimes it is Satan tempting you with such "gifts".


36 posted on 12/11/2006 6:03:23 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: ken5050

Initial reports indicated that they were spotted at a gas station but now the authorities in Virginia are denying them.

http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=5795655

My guess is that if they made this trip several times a year that they usually left at the same time, stopped at the same places for meals and to fill up the tank.


37 posted on 12/11/2006 6:18:43 AM PST by Andy'smom
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To: alicewonders

Where were the psychics prior to 9/11?


38 posted on 12/11/2006 6:24:26 AM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
Where were the psychics prior to 9/11?

Well, I guarantee if anyone tried to warn us about 9/11 before it happened - I'm sure no one listened to them. In fact, I know some people who are not psychics that tried to warn us & no one listened.

39 posted on 12/11/2006 6:32:21 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: alicewonders

I'm sorry this thread is turning into a "Bash Psychics" thread. It should be about this poor couple, prayers for their safe return and for their family. I'll just say one more thing before I head to work:

Speaking of prayer - do you not consider the act of having a mental conversation with your Maker to be a form of paranormal activity? It is something which we cannot explain in normal earthly terms. God sent prophets in the bible. God tells us prayers are answered. God gives each of us gifts to use in the glorification of his Almighty power. I do not question what is in people's hearts - I know for a fact that I have had things come to me that had to come straight from God.

If I were these people's families - I would try ANYTHING to find them - even if I were skeptical.

Pray for this couple, it will help them.


40 posted on 12/11/2006 6:50:54 AM PST by alicewonders
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