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To: alicewonders
"Some psychics have helped police departments solve crimes that otherwise would have gone unsolved. Do not discount it so quickly."

I can assure you that I have not discounted this subject quickly. I have studied this for years as a have many others and when psychic successes are dissected there are logical resons for what was found.

I have no doubt you believe what you had were paranormal experiences. I refer you to James Randi's site debunking this stuff at http://www.randi.org

I don't expect you to embrace the skeptic view but you may find some interesting points there. Thanks for the discussion.

33 posted on 12/11/2006 5:52:10 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (PC kills.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Thanks for the information, I'll check it out. It is good to be a skeptic, most people that claim to do this are frauds & only in it for the money. I'm not saying so much that I've had paranormal experiences - I believe it's more a matter of some people having a highly tuned intuitive skill. I believe your subconscious picks up on more than your conscious does & sorts it out & makes sense of it, mine seems to happen when I am totally relaxed & asleep. Flashes of insight, I guess would be more accurate than "seeing the future".

Like I said, it's not something I care to delve into - I think you could get into some real trouble - I think people who try to communicate with the dead & such - sometimes get a lot more than they bargain for. It's like opening a window - you never know who's going to enter it, sometimes it is Satan tempting you with such "gifts".


36 posted on 12/11/2006 6:03:23 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: TangoLimaSierra; alicewonders
I refer you to James Randi's site debunking this stuff at http://www.randi.org

James Randi begins on the premise that he is a skeptic. . .but he has always assumed the impossibilities of 'the psychc'; and his investigations are no more than a personal testimony to his determination to confirm his belief in the Randi Psychic is Bunk theory.

His investigations; while they bear honest asssesments; are nonetheless, in many cases a 'truth stretched or shaped' to meet his core belief. His investigations bring one no more to a higher 'truth of the matter' than do those investigations done by a 'true believer' who begins - and ends - with a confirmation of psychic reality.

What IS necessary is an unbiased and open - but discerning - mind when approaching 'psychic/paranormal' research (as is required for any honest, credible inquiry/research, for that matter,of course). All to say, that James Randi as a disbeliever gets one no further to the 'truth of the matter' than the researcher who is already convinced that all psychic phenomena is genuine; and is determined to prove just that.

Meantime, there ARE numerous books that discuss well-researched/well documented laboratory experiments where 'statistical probabilities' are challenged by their results.

We cannot discount the role of 'observer' here as well (as per quantum physics/Heisenberg Principle etc. . .) which in itself. . .leads one to what might be described as seemingly 'paranormal' - if not mystical - considerations; if not translated as unreal. . .or just 'erroneous'.

43 posted on 12/11/2006 6:58:15 AM PST by cricket
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