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Again, initial reports. This guy seemed like the typical punk kid, but why the dynamic entry? You can't even use the typical WOD "They're going to flush the drugs down the toilet excuse".

Unless it comes out that the kid had a gun, he doesn't deserve to die, even if he is a punk bastard. SWAT is used way to much for too many of the wrong reasons.

1 posted on 12/04/2006 9:08:59 AM PST by jjm2111
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They were afraid he was going to throw an egg at them.


2 posted on 12/04/2006 9:11:11 AM PST by em2vn
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The warrant charged him with armed robbery and ADW. Why shouldn't the police assume he was armed and dangerous?


3 posted on 12/04/2006 9:11:33 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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SWAT is used way to much for too many of the wrong reasons.

Yeah, but how else are you going to justify a bloated police budget?

</sarcasm>

4 posted on 12/04/2006 9:12:36 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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John Edwards is going to strange extremes to get his son that Christmas gift.


5 posted on 12/04/2006 9:14:55 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Southaven Mississippi Freeper)
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I'd reserve judgment on this. If he really committed armed robberies, as the report led the police to believe, then they would have expected him to be armed and dangerous, and might have mistaken what he held in his hand.

If he DIDN'T commit armed robberies, then whoever wrote the report needs to be disciplined. But I see no reason to disbelieve it.


6 posted on 12/04/2006 9:15:47 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The words "elite emergency response team" are a good indicator that shots will be fired and someone will likely die. We'll likely never know whether that death was necessary and justified or not.


7 posted on 12/04/2006 9:16:24 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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The article I read said they killed his dog, too. I tried posting it earlier, but at the time, I could only find the AP link.

I think it is really ironic that our military gets in trouble for killing insurgants that are actively trying to kill them, but this kind of stuff is acceptable behavior right in our own backyards.

Granted, the kid sounds like a total punk, but this seems so extreme to me.


8 posted on 12/04/2006 9:17:23 AM PST by USMCWife6869
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Strickland was due in court in January on a separate assault charge in Wilmington, according to Donald Beskind, Don Strickland's law partner. He declined to give details on the charge but called it "the kind of thing that happens between two kids."

Looks like this kid had at least one other assault charge.

9 posted on 12/04/2006 9:17:59 AM PST by Kay
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Oh my, how sad.


11 posted on 12/04/2006 9:18:14 AM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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OldEagle has said for years that when police departments started wearing fatigues and combat boots law enforcement totally lost it.


15 posted on 12/04/2006 9:24:00 AM PST by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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Typical punk kids dress funny, swear a lot, but do little real harm. This is career-scale robbery.

They probably just saved 80 future Acuras from being stolen, and who knows how many related deaths and injuries of innocent victims in the process.

He was unloading the units at his campus apartment when a car pulled up and one man beat him to the ground while another took the Playstations, the sheriff said.

No tears for the thug. I'm glad he's dead.

17 posted on 12/04/2006 9:24:51 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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Police forces attract sadists. Its a sad fact of life. These types relish the opportunity to commit murder in the name of the law.


18 posted on 12/04/2006 9:29:11 AM PST by hgro
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Don't forget to shoot the dog!


20 posted on 12/04/2006 9:32:25 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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Police Kill North Carolina College Student Accused of Stealing PlayStation 3 Consoles

The response was proportional. If he stole PlayStations, he deserved to die.

(See tagline for clarification of this post.)

22 posted on 12/04/2006 9:33:40 AM PST by Disambiguator (This tagline is brought to you by the letter "S" with a slash in front of it.)
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"This guy seemed like the typical punk kid, but why the dynamic entry?"

Uhm, because the deputies were serving an arrest warrant that charged Strickland with armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and breaking and entering a vehicle. That's why.

24 posted on 12/04/2006 9:37:27 AM PST by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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Strickland was the only son of Raleigh lawyer ...

Bad genes.

25 posted on 12/04/2006 9:38:01 AM PST by JoeGar
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I have the feeling there is something big really missing from this story. If the dead guy had used a gun to steal the Playstation earlier, then I would assume he was armed and act accordingly. If not, then the police officers are in a world of sh** deservedly so, but I'll wait until all of the facts are in before passing judgement but at this moment I feel the kid set himself up for major failure by stealing in the first place.


26 posted on 12/04/2006 9:39:08 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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"armed robbery" ~ you do that and they come after you with guns drawn.


28 posted on 12/04/2006 9:41:10 AM PST by muawiyah
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Again, initial reports. This guy seemed like the typical punk kid, but why the dynamic entry? You can't even use the typical WOD "They're going to flush the drugs down the toilet excuse".

The armed robbery warrant comes to mind. Search warrants are one thing; an arrest warrant for a violent is something else entirely. The "knock politely and hope the punk doesn't decide to light you up" approach is not a viable option in that situation, IMHO. Your mileage may vary.

32 posted on 12/04/2006 9:43:57 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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"holding a video game controller "
How about holding a TV remote? How about any other bleeding legal harmless object in ONE'S OWN HOME? If you're carving a turkey and answer the door holding a knife?
Any of those things will get you killed.

No way would the cops ever stop and ask themselves "is that a gun or not". Their training makes them assume anything dark and held in the hand is a gun, and then, on automatic pilot they shoot.

They will apoligize. But they will not lose their jobs, go to court, go to jail.

Unless the innocent citizen they kill is a member of a certain minority group.


34 posted on 12/04/2006 9:45:55 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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