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When killer flu struck [ "Spanish Lady" flu, 1918 ]
News & Observer ^ | http://www.newsobserver.com/105/story/514837.html | Jim Nesbitt, with contributions by David Raynor and Denise Jones

Posted on 11/29/2006 12:00:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv

With a fast-striking and deadly reach that spanned the globe, the worst influenza outbreak of the 20th century is more than a sepia-toned and horrific sidebar of history. It is also a harbinger for a future influenza disaster that medical researchers say is inevitable and long overdue, a grisly example of the worst nature has to offer... Mabel Allen Boyd was one of at least 13,703 North Carolinians killed by this hyper-lethal flu virus, a mutation that still baffles modern-day scientists. Eighty-eight years after her death, she is still the face of the Spanish flu pandemic for Leon Spencer, 101, who lives in the Whitaker Glen retirement community near Five Points in Raleigh... "I was kindly stunned because she was almost like a family member," said Spencer, who was 13 in that deadly fall of 1918... For almost every North Carolinian buried by this remorseless killer, there was a parent or orphan, a spouse or sibling -- a loved one left behind, stunned by immediate grief and saddled with the long-running guilt of a survivor.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: flu; ginakolata; godsgravesglyphs; health; healthcare; influenza; thespanishlady
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Police officers in Seattle wear masks to protect them from the flu in December 1918. The pandemic killed millions. Photo From the National Archives at College Park, Md.

When killer flu struck

1 posted on 11/29/2006 12:00:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Scientists: 1918 Killer Spanish Flu Was a Bird Flu
Fox News | October 05, 2005 | Daniel J. DeNoon
Posted on 10/05/2005 2:20:11 PM EDT by stm
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2 posted on 11/29/2006 12:00:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Ordinarily modern history topics don't get a ping, but this is flu season.

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3 posted on 11/29/2006 12:01:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I had to go to the dr today (sick) and just got my first flu shot ever. Hope it works.


4 posted on 11/29/2006 12:02:42 PM PST by Shimmer128 (:p pfffftttt!)
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To: SunkenCiv
In NYC there were stacked pine boxes on streetcorners as funeral homes struggled to collect and embalm the dead.

In Queens where I grew up, there are whole sections of cemeteries with grave after grave of young people who died suddenly in 1917/1918.

5 posted on 11/29/2006 12:33:06 PM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: SunkenCiv
Consider this: More Americans died during the Spanish flu pandemic than were killed in battle during all of America's wars -- from the Revolutionary War through the Civil War, both World Wars and the current conflict in Iraq.

((shudder)) And all in the space of a few months. Really puts things in perspective. I wonder why it just petered out almost as quickly as it started, too.

6 posted on 11/29/2006 12:38:13 PM PST by leilani (Dimmi, dimmi se mai fu fatta cosa alcuna!)
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To: leilani
It also puts AIDS into perspective, for that matter, or West Nile Virus. West Nile killed something like 54 people in Michigan when it peaked a few years back -- and that wasn't the daily, weekly, or monthly total, it was the entire total. Still a lot of people, obviously, but the 1918 flu epidemic made all of those look like a bad fart.

Flu: The Story Of The Great Influenza Pandemic Flu:
The Story Of The
Great Influenza Pandemic

by Gina Kolata

7 posted on 11/29/2006 12:42:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
years ago my grandma relayed a story to her children that she remembered the coffins stacked up on the streets of our city. I'm not too sure whether the flu killed them or secondary bacterial infections that took advantage of the opportunity of a compromised immune system. If that's the case, then antibiotics can be used to kill off the bacterial infections while the flu takes its course.
8 posted on 11/29/2006 12:51:25 PM PST by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic "adult")
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To: SunkenCiv

Perhaps a bit off-topic, but I haven't heard much about Bird Flu lately...


9 posted on 11/29/2006 12:52:58 PM PST by Sam's Army (Merry Sectarian Commercial Event and Happy New Euro-American Calendar Year!)
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To: Coleus
...while the flu takes its course.

The problem with avian flu is that it causes an extremely high temperature; that's the most dangerous part of it.

10 posted on 11/29/2006 1:04:41 PM PST by Max in Utah (WWBFD? "What Would Ben Franklin Do?")
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To: wideawake

This was an odd one. Young and healthy people seemed to suffer worse. IIRC, the virus utself attacks the white blood cells.

So people who are healthy and have strong immune systems produce the most amount of white blood cells. And give the virus lots of lunch.

The other thing was the fantastic quickness it killed folks. It was not unusual for a person to wake up in the morning feeling fine and be cold and dead before midnight that same day.


11 posted on 11/29/2006 1:40:58 PM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. But they are here to turn our place into their place!!!!!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

How did this flu manage to spread across the world? Was it at least partially due to veterans returning from the war.


12 posted on 11/29/2006 1:52:09 PM PST by wolfcreek (Suegna como si vivieras para siempre; vive como si fueses a morir hoy.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Somehow, some way, Bush's fault!


13 posted on 11/29/2006 2:16:10 PM PST by Brofholdonow
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To: Shimmer128

As DM patient should not wait so long for flu vaccine


14 posted on 11/29/2006 2:21:08 PM PST by Letaka
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To: Letaka

See my tagline????


15 posted on 11/29/2006 2:40:39 PM PST by Shimmer128 (:p pfffftttt!)
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To: SunkenCiv

My grandparents' generation. They told stories of homes being quarantined with quarantine signs, in their neighborhood.


16 posted on 11/29/2006 3:03:02 PM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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To: wolfcreek; SunkenCiv
How did this flu manage to spread across the world? Was it at least partially due to veterans returning from the war.


A friend told me that recently he read in a book that this flu was started in Ft.Riley, Kansas. They thought it first attacked the horses, then crossed over to the soldiers. Then, as the men got on trains going to the coast for WW 1, they spread it with those they came in contact. There is some recent book out that tells about this, but I'm not sure of the title.

17 posted on 11/29/2006 3:17:33 PM PST by Jessarah
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To: wolfcreek; SunkenCiv

Maybe it's the book you posted above???


18 posted on 11/29/2006 3:25:39 PM PST by Jessarah
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To: Sam's Army

I guess it flew the coop.


19 posted on 11/29/2006 3:25:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wolfcreek

In the Kolata book, research is mentioned regarding flu outbreaks at least a couple years earlier, with each year getting worse, and culminating in the 1918 disaster, then tapering off through about 1920.

Also in the book, a hypothesis regarding a bad flu outbreak in the 1890s; those who had the flu that year and were still living in 1918 had immunity, suggesting some kind of similarity between those outbreaks. There were a number of "killer" flu outbreaks in the second half of the 19th century (I think there's info on the CDC website), but again, those were nothing compared the Spanish Lady.


20 posted on 11/29/2006 3:55:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, November 16, 2006 https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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