"I know how the book ends, so I don't need to watch."
Posted on 11/11/2006 10:29:18 AM PST by VOA
Here is a "headsup"; set video recorder as needed):
The God Delusion
Richard Dawkins
On Saturday, November 11 at 10:00 pm (EASTERN) and
Sunday, November 12 at 7:00 pm (EASTERN)
(Note: Program start times are approximate and all times are Eastern.)
Description: From Randolph-Macon Woman's College in Lynchburg,
Virginia, Richard Dawkins argues that there is no rational or
moral reason to believe in God or any other supernatural
higher power. He says that because atheists are discriminated
against in the United States they tend not to be vocal about
their views, even though collectively they could be an influential
political and social force. Professor Dawkins also reads selections
from his new book, talks about his love for science, and answers
questions from the Randolph-Macon audience.
(Excerpt) Read more at booktv.org ...
The person claiming to be God showed up on Earth and let Himself be known. He said was that life is eternal and what one makes of their spirit in this world determines where and with whom the continue on with life elsewhere. That person said in Matt 12:39
He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.
The sign of Jonah is the Holy Spirit the knowledge, wisdom, understanding and decisions of Free will of God. One can only know God through the Holy Spirit, not through physical science. That is impossible as God said. Dawkin's hasn't a rational leg to stand on.
He also rejects Free will and thus the concept of individual spirit itself. He's not being rational by attempting to convince folks they should make a choice to not believe in God, when he denies Free will from the start. He's simply a credentialed illogical con man pushing his authoritarian socialist acheme.
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Sounds like he has the beginning of a serious god complex
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Had God not ahown up in person to tell us who He was, it would be illogical to believe that there was a God. That's, because the belief would be in something that no one could see, or examine on a consistent and rational basis.
As I said in post 21, the person that did present Himself as God did show up, and he said no physical evidence whatsoever would be given. That includes evidence of design. He gave his reason, and that was so only His Spirit was to be the evidence on examines to know Him and believe in Him. One's judgement of that Spirit and honest incorporation of that Spirit as one's own is the sole basis of salvation. Salvation being the continuaiton of life with God and others of like spirit. That was given in Matt 12:32
"Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
"belief in God, and more importantly, His principles, is not a matter of reason, but a matter of Faith, "the belief in things not seen."
It's not rational to believe in what can't be seen, or examined. That's not the case with God, since He came and taught who He was and what He was about. As He pointed out, it's the spirit that's importent, the physical machinery that supports that spirit in this world. Examination and judgement of God's Spirit, or any decisions regarding one's own spirit, requires a rational examination and judgement. As I pointed out, that is required and it is the basis of salvation.
Examining the physics of this world to search for God was never to be allowed. From the beginning access to the tree of life was forbidden and a cherubim wielding a flamming sword was assigned to guard it. That cherubim is the physics of this world. The beauty, knowledge and understanding of God is to be found in His Spirit, not in the physical machinery.
Sounds like Dawkins spends most of his time now bashing religious folks rather than doing science.
As an atheist, I've never been discriminated against, contrary to Dawkins' assertion. He weeps about discrimination against atheists, while supporting discrimination against Christians. As a social and fiscal conservative, I have more in common with most Christians than I do with any liberals.
I have a degree in biology, and taught science for 19 years, so I'm acquainted with genetics and Darwin's ideas.
He misuses science to attack religion. He is a disgrace to science.
(And as a previous poster mentioned, South Park humiliated him!)
The assertion that He was God cannot be "examined on a consistent or rational basis." Thankfully, it does not need to be. Science will never prove God's existence, and Faith doesn't need to.
the person that did present Himself as God did show up, and he said no physical evidence whatsoever would be given. That includes evidence of design.
Or self-enforcing logic post hoc, ergo propter hoc. The point is, trying to use science to prove or disprove God is like using a can opener to catch fish: it's the wrong tool and succeeds only by chance.
Let the atheists believe (un-believe?) whatever they want. It shouldn't make one ounce of difference to a person of Faith.
Thank science somebody posted something apolitical. At this point I think I'd rather listen to atheists than politicians. I don't pretend to understand God, I am just grateful He understands me. I'll keep worshiping The Son Of God and he can keep believing in nothing. Dawkins is no more likely to change my beliefs than I am to change his. Only one of us is wasting their breath trying.
Unless I happen to hear about a program of particular interest, I skip C-Span, too. I get enough left-slanting information all day long. It's everywhere.
When dealing with religion, I'll stick with the folks with the experience.
Maybe it would be better to say, "When I go on a safari, I'd prefer to take the local guide with the most experience."
I don't want to be guided by an inexperienced someone who says there is no such thing as a savanna or as a wild beast.
If one has rational capacity, it must be. Judgement is required. That judgement is what determines salvation. That rational examination and judgement is what occers in John 6:44
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day."
The draw is the judgement, that what God said about Himself is of beauty, value, worthy of praise and incorporation into one's own spirit.
"Thankfully, it does not need to be."
For those incapable of rational thought for whatever reason, that is true. For those capable of rational thought, it is not true, because they will make decisions and judgemnets in their lives.
Right on.
I'm not sure why I should give a damn about this.
Dawkins---- A hateful angry creature.
Most servants of Satan are.
Well said...my sentiments on this guy exactly. I heard him on a pubic radio show once day and he was absolutely raving against the "extreme right wing Christians"
He has some serious mental and spiritual problems.
Several years ago I read a book called "The atheist syndrome" that made a very good case that many people who call themselves atheists have severe mental/spiritual problems.
I do not mean to paint all atheists with a broad brush, just the raving nutters like this Dawkins character.
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