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Will you take my hand, or spit on it? ZOT it!
11/8/06 | Joshua Lander

Posted on 11/08/2006 2:53:58 PM PST by landeraepi

Full disclosure, I'm a democrat, so get over it. I'm not here to insult you, and I'm certainly not here to gloat. I'm not here to trade barbs, undermine Free Republic, or infiltrate your ranks. I'll be honest — I disagree with most FReepers on almost every issue.

So, why am I posting a new thread?

Because I — we — need you. We at Democratic Underground and Daily Kos, and all of the lefty blogs you love to hate, and who love to hate you. We need you to acknowledge that if there's one thing we're learning about our country's political system, it's that there's way too much corruption. Too much greed. Cronyism. Lying. It's on both sides, folks — I'm no apologist.

Yes, the Democrats won. Yes, we're very happy about that. It means we get to put the emergency brake on what we see as runaway irresponsibility in our government. Some of you FReepers see it, too — the Bush administration is spending like Paris Hilton on a bender and Harry Reid is spending his afternoons thinking about how to double his real estate money instead of how to lead his minority majority. Result? America's losing its ethical center.

Indulge me for a moment: we at Daily Kos and Democratic Underground are ecstatic for one particular reason that it may be difficult for FReepers to understand. Candidates like Jon Tester, Jerry McNerney, Paul Hodes, and Jim Webb were all relative political unknowns — guys with great ideas who just had no "street cred" at all. The lefty blogs — dKos and DU, chiefly, coordinated the fundraising and did the canvassing, calling, and late-night video posting on YouTube.

We wanted this one like rabid dogs, and we got it. You guys will win again, and win big, but this time it was the democrats. If Jon Tester and Jerry McNerney begin taking money from lobbyists and accepting flights on Learjets, do you know what we'd do?

We'd castrate them. We'd end them. Ask a DUer — if these guys let Washington's corruption get under their skin, we'll vote against them.

But the truth is that they won't. I know this because that's why we picked them. They're committed to bringing some civility and dignity back to our country's political system — and so am I.

And, hopefully, so are you.

So, today, I'm reaching across the aisle, in earnest, and in what I hope you will realize is good faith. America isn't America without all of us, and I'm not about to let this election force us to self-segregate and turn into the epitome of what we hate. This country wasn't founded on ideological differences. America was founded as a place for people with unpopular beliefs. That's why the Puritans came here — and why everyone else followed.

Disagreement is no justification for acrimony.

If Free Republic joined with Daily Kos and DU to denounce corruption, cronyism, and dishonesty in government — regardless of our political stripes — we'll all be better for it.

I'm cross-posting a similar thread to dKos and DU in the hopes that the netroots on both sides can come together to reorient our government's ethical compass. Let's agree to disagree, but let's do it in an American way — in a way that helps all of us. We can (and should!) continue to fight for our personal morals, beliefs, and ideas — but we must ensure that our government, no matter which party controls it, is still a government of, by, and for the people.

So, come on, FReepers. Let's fix this country. Concentrate on common ground instead of ideological divisions. What do we all believe, and how can we leverage the immense power and respect of the blogosphere to do the most good?

I wish you all the best, and I'm sorry if I've ruined your day.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: accord; agreement; change; democrats; duiq; dummie; idontneedyou; insignificant; lander; newdirection; noquarter; outintwoyears; partyoftreason; rats; reachforthis; republicans; revengeoftheturds; scaredmoonbat; troll; whocares; zot; zotmeplease; zotzola
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To: darkwing104

On the other thread he asked if I would take his hand or spit in it. My reply: "nah, I'll sh*t in it"


61 posted on 11/08/2006 3:50:04 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: dynachrome
On the other thread he asked if I would take his hand or spit in it. My reply: "nah, I'll sh*t in it"

You got to be careful with people like that, they may be "Brokeback Trolls".


62 posted on 11/08/2006 3:52:17 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: landeraepi

I can think of a lot of things I'd rather do than work with dems. Like shoving a pencil in my eye. That could be fun...


63 posted on 11/08/2006 3:52:24 PM PST by ilovew ("I was born an American; I will live an American; I shall die an American." --Daniel Webster)
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To: ladyinred

Yes if what he said were true it would be ideal, unforunately we live in a world so divided by politics, religion, culture, moral values, who's right who's wrong
Divine Intervention will be the only time this world and the people in it will be united.....


64 posted on 11/08/2006 3:52:31 PM PST by TaraP
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To: Americanexpat
Every time a Democrate starts preaching about corruption and lobbyists I want to puke put my hand on my wallet.

We extended a hand across the isle before and had it handed to us, not again. We tried to get the dims to realize we are all in this struggle together, what we got was obstructionism, defeatism, and outright lies.

Ask George Bush Sr. about extending a hand to democrats, that one cost him his second term! Oh, as for this,"If our guys are crooks we'll throw them out", routine........well we've been waiting for a long time but they just keep recycleing them. Alcee Hastings a case in point!

65 posted on 11/08/2006 3:53:29 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: landeraepi

Like any terrorist liberals are my sworn enemy. I wouldn't spit on your hand because I'd stab you in the heart first. Take that back to your viper pits.


66 posted on 11/08/2006 3:55:40 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Communist creep.)
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To: landeraepi
They're committed to bringing some civility and dignity back to our country's political system — and so am I.

Of course you are.

67 posted on 11/08/2006 3:55:47 PM PST by skeeter
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To: landeraepi

There is no common ground, you are the enemy.


68 posted on 11/08/2006 3:56:11 PM PST by Hexenhammer (...a ballot's dead so a bullet's what I get.)
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To: darkwing104

"Brokeback Trolls".
He was kind of irate when someone implied he was a brokeback (or was that broke wind?)


69 posted on 11/08/2006 3:56:32 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: landeraepi
Compromise = defeat

Go away

70 posted on 11/08/2006 4:00:22 PM PST by RushCrush (I voted straight ticket GOP here in Chicago!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Actually, this is more what I had in mind with regard to that comment, but thanks anyway. :)
71 posted on 11/08/2006 4:01:58 PM PST by Democracy In Iraq (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: landeraepi

We'll Be Back!

And now we return you to channel cut & run.


72 posted on 11/08/2006 4:02:55 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: landeraepi

I admit corruption

you guys couldn't win without it

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73 posted on 11/08/2006 4:05:29 PM PST by vigilante2 (Thank You Veterans)
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To: meandog

*sigh* Too bad for him. I gave him points for trying. He's a noob on DU too (though I think he's been lurking for a while). I wonder if he can stay alive there.


74 posted on 11/08/2006 4:06:14 PM PST by beezdotcom
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To: landeraepi

I know you are not here to respond. While there are some decent Ds, they are Federalists to the max, not democratic at all, not interested in the several States. Federal Government can do everything, they say. Over here in R land we would prefer to see Government kept to a minimum. It's a serious issue when the Ds claim to be Liberal yet try to shut down one thing after another, such as free speech, the 2nd Amendment and smoking and even regulate seatbelts and where to drill for oil--and do it on the National level. That is Fascism. The Rs are supposedly Conservative, yet what they wish to conserve is this very thing--personal freedom and the smaller Government and smaller taxation we used to have. Rs wish to conserve liberty and promote democracy; Ds wish to restrict liberty and restrict democracy. Say what you want about this, it is what is.


75 posted on 11/08/2006 4:06:17 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: landeraepi

Thank you for sharing that. Don't forget to pick up your lovely parting gifts on the way out.


76 posted on 11/08/2006 4:07:10 PM PST by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: landeraepi
Guess you missed reading this...


77 posted on 11/08/2006 4:09:35 PM PST by backhoe (Destiny Prevailed... so, try again...)
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To: landeraepi

I don't even think he is a real DUer - they don't call themselves "lefties."


78 posted on 11/08/2006 4:10:40 PM PST by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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To: landeraepi

Well, looks like you have a spitkake on your hands landeraepi...


79 posted on 11/08/2006 4:15:08 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: MadIvan
I keep thinking about reaching for a mallet to break said hand.

You're nicer than I am. I just keep thinking about what would happen if said hand ever came to confiscate my firearms.
80 posted on 11/08/2006 4:17:38 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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