Posted on 10/06/2006 5:39:03 PM PDT by KevinDavis
Well this is the live thread for Season 3 of Battlestar Galactica.. Basically for people who lives in the Eastern and Central times zones. There will be another thread for the Western Time Zone...
So say we all..
If it makes us feel uncomfortable, that's fine. If it makes us think, even better.
Remember some on this same board crowed last season about the episode that seemed to make the peace movment out to be a bunch of dangerous buffooons.
I just wasnt that impressed with season 3 opener.
I think it was just setting up the plot lines for this season.
It was, obviously but indirectly. During the debate between the Cylons 15-20 minutes in, the Dean Stockwell character notably used not only the phrase "hearts and minds" but also "It's not like they welcomed us with..." clearly meant to be ended with "open arms". Yeah, Dean Stockwell was playing the mouthpiece for the Bush policies there and it was pretty obviously intentional.
I will give them credit for showing both sides of the suicide bomber issue and the bottom line is that it's a poor Iraq analogy, even if the writers intend it to be one. Baltar wasn't elected with 100% of the vote like Saddam, nor was he posing any threat to the Cylons, nor was he throwing people into plastic shredders or raping their wives, sisters, and children. The "resistence" also isn't filled with foreigners like it is in Iraq, nor is there sectarian violence between the people from the different colonies, nor are there people who are really happy that the Cylons are there.
According to Col Tigh. I wouldn't trust Tigh to bring me my coffee.
I was surprised at how much threat and force it took to get him to sign the execution order. Baltar of last season would have caved in an instant.
Many people here on FR try to project the real world onto any piece of science fiction or fantasy. If you look back in FR threads you will find that FReepers were claiming that the Lord of the Rings movies described the conflict between the West and Islamic fascists. And they also claimed the third Star Wars movie was anti-Bush because of the Sith's absolutism vs the Jedi's relativism. Good grief! Heck, if I wanted I could say that Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory, Dr. Strangelove, and Full Metal Jacket are all anti-Bush if I abstracted to the same degree as many FReepers commonly do.
Just because you can find similarities between this episode and the War on Terror doesn't mean that they exist. It is awfully easy to abstract something like this and perform a projection. For that reason you have to give it a very large benefit of the doubt by default.
have fun.
Why didn't you think of the Romans or even the Nazis? Perhaps you are projecting your thoughts about the War on Terror onto this piece of science fiction?
You were right Kevin.
The fleet has been taught a lesson.
Hard and deep.
Can't wait to see how this turns out.
I thought I was the only one who does that! I also watched a bunch of the webisodes while waiting for the first run of the show tonight.
A FAR better analogy is the Nazi occupation of France....
OR, The Soviet occupation of Western Poland and the Baltic states BEFORE 1941, when they carted away and executed the leadership/elites, when the people started resisting...
i noticed nobody posted a reply to yours, but THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I could not have said it better myself.
I must admit, at first I was seeing it as an anti-Iraq deal, but then I remembered the end of the 2nd season, when the Cylons marched down the street reminiscent of the Nazis marching through Paris. I then thought to myself, "wouldnt i be doing the same thing if the facists or islamofacists occupied America?"
what theyre really trying to show is that freedom is gainded at a great price, and many of our men have paid that price so that we can sit here and watch TV and be critical of it.
God Bless America.
So say we all. =P
i didnt think of that.
that's a good frackin' theory...
i agree. he may have sprung ONE ball... =P
You are talking about stories that were written years and years ago. BSG is now.
Platoon was the most transparantly obvious since it was focused mostly on Arjana's "Celestial Journey".
I think these conflicts are called "archtypes".
The Revelations of John can also be stretched to track some of this, but I'm not getting into it beyond noting that the "Hildabeast" has come up out of the pit in her manifestation as "Baltar"
I did get that one right, right?!
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