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(Nearly?) No Smoking at (California?) Hiltons?
September 30, 2006 | ML/NJ

Posted on 09/30/2006 2:08:58 PM PDT by ml/nj

This past week I flew to the Los Angeles area for business. My client purchased my airline tickets for me and made my hotel reservations. I told them I wanted a smoking room. They made reservations for me at a Hilton Garden Inn in Arcadia, and another at the Hilton on Century Blvd near LAX.

When I checked into the place in Arcadia, they informed me that they were out of smoking rooms (which they knew I wanted), and that if I smoked in the room they gave me I would incur a $75 cleaning charge. Maybe they could switch my room for my second and third nights but that was it. Take it or leave it. It wasn't like I really had a choice. I was traveling with the client and his company had made the arrangements. Even changing rooms was an empty opportunity as I wasn't going to return to the hotel in mid-afternoon to see whether they would give me one of their precious smoking rooms. That is, if they had any.

This Hilton Garden Inn had four floors. I stayed on the first, and the first floor was all no-smoking. I had to go up to the second floor for ice, and it too was all no-smoking. I thought about investigating the other floors but I just didn't have time.

My last night was at the LAX Hilton, and there too I was informed that they were "out of smoking rooms." (They also were well aware that I had reserved a smoking room.) This time I asked how many designated smoking rooms they had, and the clerk told me they had 30. When I asked how many rooms they had in the hotel, she told me, "Over a thousand."

So I wonder, is this a California thing? Is it a Hilton thing? I do stay at other Hilton properties (Hampton Inns and Embassy Suites) in other places and haven't had any problem, but then I never used to have a problem at Marriotts either.

ML/NJ


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1 posted on 09/30/2006 2:08:59 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

OH they are giving rid of Smoking room ML

They are all Hilton are going non smoking rooms by year 2007 that was in LA Times back in July because of demand by travlers want non smoking room


2 posted on 09/30/2006 2:11:12 PM PDT by SevenofNine (I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy)
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To: ml/nj

I'm surprised you could get a smoking room here in Cali. The only places I know you can smoke inside here are tobacco shops and Indian casinos.


3 posted on 09/30/2006 2:12:12 PM PDT by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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To: ml/nj
I always get the opposite response. When I ask for a non smoking room I am usually told they are all taken and only smoking rooms are available. I am not talking about CA or the Hilton specifically, just rooms in general.
4 posted on 09/30/2006 2:15:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ml/nj; patton

patton has traveled alot. stayed in hiltons all over the
country too. when they tell him they are out of smoking
rooms, he pulls out the multitude of gold cards he has
for competitors. somehow they seem to mysteriously find
him a smoking room. ;)


5 posted on 09/30/2006 2:17:46 PM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: leda
Actually, last time I was in a Hilton, the took one look at my HH points, and MADE one.

You know, the level of points that got us that week at Disney.

6 posted on 09/30/2006 2:21:09 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

yeah, in the mega suite :D


7 posted on 09/30/2006 2:24:05 PM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: ml/nj

Face the facts, man, you've got a large target hung around your neck. You are a prime target of the people who know better than you.


8 posted on 09/30/2006 2:31:05 PM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: leda
With the warm cookies. delivered by a nicely dressed girl.

Did I mention I am doing my homework?

9 posted on 09/30/2006 3:04:10 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

nope, the mega suite in fla, silly!

homework? there goes that imagination, again ;)


10 posted on 09/30/2006 3:08:02 PM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; Mears; CSM; ...

ping for your consideration


11 posted on 09/30/2006 3:55:31 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
Since I'm pretty much only staying in hotels in California, it's hard to say if it is only a California thing or not. But more and more we're coming across entire hotels that have no smoking rooms at all. Holiday Inn Express seems to be the worst at it; haven't found one yet that offers smoking rooms.

Hilton in Bakersfield usually has plenty of smoking rooms available, the one in Arcadia is run by the local smoking busybody (who wants to make 'smoking sections' at Santa Anita, last I heard...)

Truth be told, it's really starting to tick me off. Charge $120 a night for a room where you can pay extra for just about everything. If it wasn't for Hotwire.com, I probably wouldn't even bother staying at a Hilton again. Service at all of their properties has dropped through the floor in most of the Southern California locations I've stayed at.
12 posted on 09/30/2006 4:34:37 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Cagey

...am I wrong in what I told you?


13 posted on 09/30/2006 4:36:40 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: kingu

Don't worry, it's only temporary.


14 posted on 09/30/2006 4:43:16 PM PDT by Freedom4US (u)
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To: kingu
who wants to make 'smoking sections' at Santa Anita, last I heard

Not sure what this means, I haven't been to Santa Anita (except for breakfast) in a half dozen years or so. I was at Fairplex last week and there were no-smoking signs everywhere. I just assumed that Santa Anita would be the same now. At Saratoga and Belmont, one can no longer smoke in any part of the grandstand (including the clubhouse), so having smoking sections would be an improvement.

ML/NJ

15 posted on 09/30/2006 4:58:06 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: leda; ml/nj
patton has traveled alot. stayed in hiltons all over the country too. when they tell him they are out of smoking rooms, he pulls out the multitude of gold cards he has for competitors. somehow they seem to mysteriously find him a smoking room. ;)

I like it ;-)

ml/nj: Seems to me that the hotel didn't live up to their end of the bargain.

I'd ask for a reduced rate next time for the inconvenience.

16 posted on 09/30/2006 5:10:13 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge; ml/nj

it is effective :D

i think ml deserves much more than a discounted rate too.


17 posted on 09/30/2006 5:37:38 PM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: ml/nj
Do what I do.

Smoke in it anyway.

Dispose of the butts outside of the room.

Leave a $20.00 tip for the maid.

I've never incurred their stupid 'cleaning charge' once.

L

18 posted on 09/30/2006 5:39:27 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: ml/nj

Yes, the grandstands are no smoking, but the new target is no smoking anywhere in the infields or elsewhere on the property except limited marked areas. Talk about driving customers away to Indian casinos.

(that is until the smoking busybodies reach there - well, more than they have.)


19 posted on 09/30/2006 5:39:46 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Lurker
Leave a $20.00 tip for the maid.

Actually I leave a note for the maid. It says:

NO SMOKING
NO TIP
Ask your management.
I smoke cigars, not cigarettes. (Cigarettes are bad for you!) A couple of years ago, a hotel moved me, apparently from my smoking room to a non-smoking room, when there was a problem with the room. I really didn't know. The soap dish looked like an ash tray. So when I smoked a cigar, one of their smoking Nazis banged on my door. It was almost more effort than it worth to get the "cleaning" charge reversed.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 09/30/2006 5:51:56 PM PDT by ml/nj
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