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Tony Soprano Channeling Sam Spade (Re Sgt. Gottlieb - NY Times Star Witness, Duke Rape Hoax)
Liestoppers ^ | 08-26-2006 | Tony Soprano of Court TV Board Fame

Posted on 08/26/2006 9:33:29 PM PDT by Ken H

Tony Soprano Channeling Sam Spade

I don't mind a reasonable amount of trouble. If I did, would you find me in those dark hours, eyeing some broad at Blinco's, about to find myself in the middle of the biggest story to hit town in years?

I'm Tony Soprano of the Court TV discussion board fame. No, not the guy on that TV show. I just took his moniker cause it gave me cover like a cheap toupee when a fella's follicles are few. I'm not afraid of cops like Gottlieb. I was there the night the caper with the fry cook went down.

Did I see it? No.

Gottlieb and I rub each other the wrong way, like a cheap wool suit you've had one year too long. Things were tense that night, my friends. I shot off my mouth a few times.

As Gottlieb passed my barstool, he leaned in close. I could see the oily sweat on his shiny bald head. "Keep riding on me and they're gonna be picking iron out of your liver." He straightened up and, with his posse following him, sauntered out the door into the alley. What happened next, well, that's the most baffling mystery story in years.

A friend of mine, a newsie, was in Blinco's a few nights later. "Tony, Have the barkeep pour me some of that booze you're drinking, and I'll tell you a story you might want to hear." "Good booze makes any tale you're going to tell one I want to hear." I motioned for him to pull out the barstool beside me. We waited till the dame serving us gave me a wink and sauntered back to the bar.

"Did you see Gottlieb's picture on the front page of the local rag. Did you read the piece saying his boss Nifong should be worried he's going down for the Blinco's gig?'

"Yeah, me and half the town saw that. What's your beef? Gottlieb's days as a Big Shot Bully are as numbered as a Currier and Ives calendar. The cook ratted him out, said the "Bald guy" was the instigator. Of the coppers here that night, Gottlieb fit that description like a Hong Kong suit you had made to order. He's as finished as a Dame from an East Coast Boarding school. He's going down.

The newsie smiled, took another sip of his drink. "Not so fast, Tony, Gottlieb may have hired a lawyer, but he ain't gonna take the fall. Our big story tomorrow is two young cops will take the rap for him. No way bossman Nifong will let his boy Gottlieb go down till the Dukies are duked out." I took a drag on my cigarette and watched the smoke curl across the table. The newsie leaned in and pushed copy of the morning's paper my way.

Our eyes met again as I glanced at the photos of the two cops charged."

But they have hair! Their heads look like lucky sheep who ran from a careless shearer. No way they fit the Cook's description. And Gottlieb lawyered up faster than a railroad car on an icy stretch of track!"

"Exactly. Nifong's the boss. He ain't gonna let no stinking fry cook ruin the best campaign strategy since Washington rowed across a frosty river in Delaware. Gottlieb's the chief investigator. Three months later, he turned in ...pages of notes. His recollection of events added details to Nifong's case like a New York seamstress adds sequins to a songbird's gown. Gottlieb's in solid with the boss."

I sat in stunned silence, not even a come hither look from the comely barmaid could stop my thoughts. The newsie took another sip of the bourbon I bought him.

"It ain't the first time either. One morning. around 6AM, Gottlieb ran a red light and rammed his car into another guy's ride right here in Raleigh. When the smoke cleared, Mr.Nobody's car had $7000 worth of damage. Our man Gottlieb didn't even get a ticket. Tony, if that was you or me, think the Raleigh cops would let it slide like a fried egg on a greasy stove?"

I leaned back. The newsie smiled a knowing smile. "Ain't gonna happen, Tony. Watch and see. The guy with the smashed car, the poor fry cook here that got knocked around? They are NOBODYS, Tony. And NOBODY cares." My beat can be ugly, my friends. The night can be cold. But this story chilled me like a eager bridegroom's champagne waiting to be uncorked. But it's not over yet. Tony Soprano doesn't go down easy.

******Footnote: Unlike some OTHER fiction writers LieStoppers feels the need to distinguish fiction from fact. Should the NYT wish to carry this story, LieStoppers will insist they disclose the difference. Tony Soprano was NOT in Blinco's the night of the Fry Cook beating, but we link to the basic facts of the story that ARE true.

[Links are at Liestoppers, and will be listed in posts to follow]


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Never mind, while I was posting, you were already on it,LOL!


281 posted on 08/29/2006 7:33:27 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Mike Nifong

"I made a phone call and, if accurate, Lisa Hawkins is only being moved into another facility - out of the Sheriffs domain"

The sheriffs seem more honest than the Durham PD--the sheriffs at least arrested prostitutes.

Maybe she's only being moved to the Durham PD jail so she can testify, and then will be returned later?

(I hope WRAL covers this.)


282 posted on 08/29/2006 7:34:39 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; CondorFlight

Either they screwed up that record - or she being released.

That record makes no sense. She has sentenced that hasn't even STARTED yet (consecutive sentences). She scheduled to be in in til Late April next year.

Nifong can't even justify this - she's listed on that Sheriff's site as her latest being a FELONY. So who would give a deal to someone serving a FELONY as the principal perp to hang a someone on a misdemeanor (aiding). The Defense attorneys would eat his lunch.

Either we have a screwed up record - or she's going to testify.


283 posted on 08/29/2006 7:45:58 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: All; Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief; abb

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/apps/offender/offend1?DOCNUM=0174277&SENTENCEINFO=yes&SHOWPHOTO=yes

One Database has her as being incarcerated (see above) and one
has her being released.

Something's happening here - it's too much of a coincidence on the the day of court.

Why do I think she got a deal.

Can someone save that Sheriff's web-page listing her as released and Felony in the other column? Please.


284 posted on 08/29/2006 7:52:17 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060829/NEWS0103/608290362/1066/SPT
Warrant out for Henry accuser
Woman made up her story against Bengals wideout, authorities say


285 posted on 08/29/2006 8:17:46 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

That's what should happen to false accuser's. Too many times, there's no penalty.

thanks


286 posted on 08/29/2006 8:30:32 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Jezebelle; Mike Nifong; Fido696; darbymcgill; Alia; maggief

"If Kim and Gottlieb were going to concoct a rape story, she would have claimed
she was the victim so she herself, not Crystal, might be able to sue, and would
have had her wits about her when she made the report. A conspiracy before the fact
just doesn't add up in any way, shape or form." #145.

"there may be room between a set-up and friends/acquaintances on the force.
The fact is, the DPD didn't, it appears, investigate either of these women." # 132

"If this were a set up, it was possibly the worst set up in the history of the world." # 128

"Gottlieb was a major manipulator from the beginning." # 224

"I wonder why Gott'lies would look into hiring an attorney from Jerry Clayton's law firm?
Nifong's nemesis, Freda Black, is an attorney there, too." # 239

The timing of the release of the two audio 911 tapes was seen by many campus sceptics
as an attempt by the DPD to douse the flames of hysteria enveloping parts of Durham and
the media during the first stages of the now known "Duke Rape Hoax".

These two tapes, the first alleging bad language as the basis of a crime in process, and
the second bringing about the handoff to the cops at Kroger, to date are the only contem-
poraneous physical evidence of any criminal activity that night.

The mysterious 911 caller was now confirmed by DPD as the second exotic dancer and
the drunken condition of the first was documented.

As the media and the Durham DA ploughed ahead with investigations and political
electioneering, these two hard pieces of evidence were seen by some as a message
from the DPD that 'you are going in the wrong direction'. Subsequent release of internal
DPD radio traffic bolsters this view. This was the first hole shot into the 'story'.

Plough ahead they did-- and as it now appears- possibly fabricate and conspire to create
a crime which never existed.

The real crimes are on tape.


287 posted on 08/29/2006 8:39:04 AM PDT by xoxoxox
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; All

I just spoke with someone at the Jail where she was held - (not the main part of the Sheriff's office).

Get this - she was brought in from Prison yesterday and was sent back to prison last night.

The Sheriff's web-site is incorrect - she has not been released.

You decide.


288 posted on 08/29/2006 8:45:20 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong

Saved .


289 posted on 08/29/2006 9:01:31 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

"Nifonging Your Way To Success!"

http://liestoppers.blogspot.com/2006/08/nifonging-your-way-to-success.html


290 posted on 08/29/2006 9:28:05 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: GAgal

hee-hee-hee


291 posted on 08/29/2006 9:30:20 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Liestoppers: Elmostafa Trial Today

http://liestoppers.blogspot.com/2006/08/elmostafa-trial-today_29.html

292 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:47 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Liestoppers: Elmostafa Trial Today

http://liestoppers.blogspot.com/2006/08/elmostafa-trial-today_29.html

293 posted on 08/29/2006 9:48:47 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

oopsy.


294 posted on 08/29/2006 9:50:27 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Thanks.


295 posted on 08/29/2006 10:22:26 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mike Nifong; Protect the Bill of Rights

Was Lisa Hawkins moved from FOUNTAIN CCW to county jail yesterday, and returned to FOUNTAIN CCW the same day?

It would make sense that she was moved to county jail in order to meet with the DA, giving testitimony for Elmo's trial today.


296 posted on 08/29/2006 10:22:53 AM PDT by maggief
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To: maggief

I spoke to the Jail - not the Sheriff's main side.

They looked it up and said she was brought in yesterday morning from Prison and last night she went back to prison.

Now this is my speculation. They could've talked to her to see if her testimony was worth a deal - remember any deal is likely to get major scrutiny. If the woman was right on what she told me (and she was reading), and they want to use Mrs. 126 arrests, that would mean there'd be a postponement today.

Or maybe the woman is scattered brained from all the drugs and she's not worth the media backlash.


297 posted on 08/29/2006 10:26:52 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Ken H

An oldie,but not fogotten goodie.
I just feel like throwing this in:

"On 3/7/2006 [sic] Sgt Gottlieb was contacted by a confidential source. The source provided Sgt Gottlieb a copy of an email sent by email address .......



Can Gottlieb be his own confidential source? HA-HA-HA


298 posted on 08/29/2006 10:28:10 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Mike Nifong; All

The Duke Case aside, does anyone think Gottlieb will be investigated?


299 posted on 08/29/2006 10:32:08 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Mike Nifong

Deal or no deal, it appears the move was in regards to Elmo's trial.

Re: Public scutiny

Nifong doesn't give a sh!t. If he did Elmo would have never been charged.

JMO ;)


300 posted on 08/29/2006 10:32:15 AM PDT by maggief
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