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Confession in JonBenet case questioned (Picked her up at school?)
Yahoo ^ | 8/17/06

Posted on 08/17/2006 5:58:41 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside

Confession in JonBenet case questioned

By CATHERINE TSAI and JON SARCHE, Associated Press

Writers 38 minutes ago

BOULDER, Colo. - For a moment, it seemed the decade-old mystery surrounding the slaying of a child beauty queen had been solved. But authorities Thursday cautioned against rushing to judge the schoolteacher who made a stunning confession that he killed JonBenet Ramsey.

For now, the only public evidence against John Mark Karr are his own words. And questions have already been raised about the details of his story, including whether he drugged the 6-year-old girl, sexually assaulted her or was even in Colorado at the time of the slaying.

Those questions led some to wonder whether Karr was the answer to the long-unsolved slaying or a disturbed wannabe trying to insert himself into a high-profile case.

"We should all heed the poignant advice of John Ramsey," Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy, quoting the little girl's father. "Do not jump to conclusions, do not rush to judgment, do not speculate. Let the justice system take its course."

Paraded before a raucous crush of reporters in Bangkok, Thailand, the sullen Karr told how he loved JonBenet, was with her when she died but that her death was an accident. And while vague on the details — "it would take several hours" — he answered flatly when asked if he was innocent: "No."

"The bottom line is that they now have a confession and until and unless they can corroborate that confession with either physical evidence or strong circumstantial evidence, that's all they have," said Scott Robinson, a Denver attorney who has followed the case from the beginning.

Added former Denver prosecutor Craig Silverman: "I have to believe they have more than this kooky confession."

Karr told investigators he drugged and sexually assaulted the little girl before accidentally killing her in her Boulder home, according to a senior Thai police officer who was briefed about the interview with U.S. authorities.

Yet JonBenet's autopsy report found no evidence of drugs, saying her death was caused by strangulation after a beating that included a fractured skull. And while it describes vaginal injuries, it makes no conclusions about whether she was raped. Investigators later concluded there was no semen on JonBenet's body.

According to Thai police, Karr also said he picked JonBenet up at school and took her back to her home. But the slaying came during the holiday vacation season.

Karr's ex-wife told TV reporters she cannot defend him, then insisted he was with her in Alabama during Christmas 1996, when JonBenet's battered body was found in the basement of her home. And authorities have not said whether Karr could have written the detailed ransom note found in the Ramsey home, with its demand for $118,000 (the bonus that had recently been awarded to the girl's father, John Ramsey).

Even the Colorado professor who swapped four years' worth of e-mails with Karr and brought him to the attention of prosecutors in May refused to characterize the suspect either as killer or kook.

"I don't know that he's guilty," said Michael Tracey, who teaches journalism at the University of Colorado. "Obviously, I went to the district attorney for a reason, but let him have his day in court and let JonBenet have her day in court and let's see how it plays out."

Karr himself added to the mystery, telling The Associated Press in Bangkok that JonBenet's death was "not what it seems to be."

Asked what happened when JonBenet died, he said: "It would take several hours to describe that. It's a very involved series of events that would involve a lot of time. It's very painful for me to talk about it."

Karr's background includes an arrest in Petaluma, Calif., in April 2001 on five misdemeanor counts of possession of child pornography, to which he pleaded not guilty. He had not been seen by authorities after violating the terms of his release, which included avoiding child pornography and places where children congregate, such as schools, beaches and parks

Any previous relationship between Karr and the Ramseys remained a mystery Thursday, though both have ties to suburban Atlanta. District Attorney Lacy refused to discuss the case during a brief news conference and suggested Karr's arrest may have been forced by concern over public safety and fears the suspect might flee.

"There are circumstances that exist in any case that mandate an arrest before an investigation is complete," Lacy said.

Karr, 41, was arrested at a Bangkok apartment Wednesday, a day after he began teaching second grade at an international school, Lacy said.

Hours later, Thai authorities sat him before a crowded room of news crews. Karr stunned reporters by admitting: "I was with JonBenet when she died. Her death was an accident."

"I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," Karr told the AP.

Thai police said Karr told them the slaying was only second-degree murder. One expert suggested his confession was geared to spare him a first-degree murder charge.

"He seemed convinced that what he said would make him guilty of a lesser crime," said Sharon L. Davies, a former prosecutor at the Ohio State University law school who has studied confessions. "It's hard to understand how that would be the case and how the physical evidence that has been at least reported about her killing would support his description of this as an accident."

Legal experts said DNA evidence will likely be key: DNA was found beneath JonBenet's fingernails and inside her underwear and authorities have never said whether it matches anyone in an FBI database. U.S. and Thai officials did not directly answer a question at a news conference about whether there was DNA evidence connecting Karr to the crime.

Karr was given a mouth-swab DNA test in Bangkok, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation. The results of that test were not immediately known. Karr will be given another DNA test when he returns to the United States in the next several days, the official said.

Karr will be taken within the week to Colorado, where he will face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault, Ann Hurst of the Department of Homeland Security told reporters in Bangkok.

Lin Wood, the Ramsey family's longtime attorney in Atlanta, said Karr went to great lengths to conceal his identity in e-mails to the university professor, going so far as to use a computer server in Canada.

Asked if authorities could tell whether Karr had firsthand knowledge of the murder or had just picked up information from news accounts, Wood said: "There is information about the murder that has never been publicly disclosed." He did not elaborate.

Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, was quoted by San Francisco television station KGO saying she was with her former husband in Alabama at the time of JonBenet's killing and she does not believe he was involved in the homicide.

Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, said there were "serious questions" about the case.

"I hope we have found the murderer of JonBenet, but I have not heard the evidence that compels that conclusion," he said.

Karr's description of the case as an accident also rang false to experts.

"It's hard to imagine a more intentional, deliberate murder than hitting a little girl in the head so hard that she had almost a foot-long fracture in her skull and then deliberately fashioning a garrotte to twist until it buries in her neck and slowly stops her breathing," said Silverman, the former Denver prosecutor. "This has always been a case of deliberate murder."


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 15minutesoffame; boulder; johnmarkkarr; jonbenetramsey; ramsey
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To: mystery-ak
Interesting that Karr said it was an accident out loud. He also said it would be 2nd degree because it was an accident.

He left the note. Why? She was dead? Oh, yeah...it becomes evidence that he was only going to kidnap her.

The Note shows his connection to the underground (porno). He's the teacher in the letter. The Ramseys are the students. "Pay attention".

61 posted on 08/17/2006 7:42:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mystery-ak

even if it does match, they have to place him in Boulder - or at least make some plausible case that he COULD have been there, because they can't demonstrate that he was definetely someplace else.


62 posted on 08/17/2006 7:43:14 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Diddle E. Squat

He's a duplicate of Tony Perkins and Physco in every way.


63 posted on 08/17/2006 7:43:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I have a theory about how he might know the Ramseys....they are all from Ga and I am sure the Ramsey's came home to visit relatives....there may have been an article in the paper or he noticed them out and about....if he did it!


64 posted on 08/17/2006 7:43:41 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: oceanview

Karr said he loved JonBenet...suppose he saw her in Ga while the Ramsey's were visiting and he became infatuated with her....he could have easily found out who they were and where they lived......if he did it.


65 posted on 08/17/2006 7:46:23 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: oceanview

The DNA and handprint will place him there. We're lousey at "memory" because it's not necessary. Christmas's come and go. I can't tell you who was there last year except for a few.


66 posted on 08/17/2006 7:46:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yep, though he kinda looks like an emaciated Roger Staubach.


67 posted on 08/17/2006 7:47:16 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Sacajaweau; All

Karr's hyper brother coming up on Greta...


68 posted on 08/17/2006 7:47:40 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak

The NOTE mentions her southern background.


69 posted on 08/17/2006 7:48:15 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

indeed, the "memory" of his relatives regarding christmas is totally worthless.


70 posted on 08/17/2006 7:49:19 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: mystery-ak

Don't get Gretta (That's a good thing!!). Please tell us what happens.


71 posted on 08/17/2006 7:49:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: oceanview

.....unless they have a date stamped photo of him under the x-mas tree with all his relatives.


72 posted on 08/17/2006 7:50:45 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak

its a repeat of last nights interview.


73 posted on 08/17/2006 7:51:08 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Sacajaweau

...it's a repeat audio from last night....nothing new.


74 posted on 08/17/2006 7:51:32 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak

I would be searching all of his credit card records.


75 posted on 08/17/2006 7:51:48 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: mystery-ak

Interesting. I don't know much about the case, and had to turn off the tv last night when Greta and her guests just started blabbing on and on about all kinds of creepy clinical issues. I guess that stuff has to be discussed in a trial, but for goodness sake it was a little child they were talking about. I guess there aren't many taboos left anymore for TV.


76 posted on 08/17/2006 7:52:39 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I followed it when it happened, but have forgotten most of the evidence....


77 posted on 08/17/2006 7:54:15 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mystery-ak

Theory: He originally knew the Ramsey's from the south. He got to Colorado as a "babysitter/tutor" for a rich business associate of the Ramsey's who took him to Colorado. With all expenses paid, he doesn't show up on credit cards, telephone calls etc..


78 posted on 08/17/2006 7:54:32 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Could be....but wouldn't the person who hired him come forward and say that yes, he was in Co?........my head hurts...lol


79 posted on 08/17/2006 7:56:17 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: oceanview

See my post #78.


80 posted on 08/17/2006 7:56:19 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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