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Man says he drugged, had sex with Ramsey
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, August 17, 2006

Posted on 08/17/2006 11:16:54 AM PDT by Peace4EarthNow

BANGKOK, Thailand - The American suspect in the killing of JonBenet Ramsey told investigators that he drugged and had sex with the 6-year-old beauty queen before accidentally killing her, a senior Thai police officer said Thursday.

An autopsy on Ramsey said a blood screening showed no drugs or alcohol in her body but said she had vaginal abrasions.

Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul, head of Thailand's immigration police, said by telephone that he was not present for the questioning, which was conducted by U.S. law enforcement officials.

But, according to what the general said he was told of the questioning, the suspect, John Mark Karr, "said he drugged the child." Suwat did not say who briefed him on the questioning.

Karr claimed he had sex with Ramsey, who was still alive, Suwat said. Karr said he then realized he had "accidentally" killed her, according to the general.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy said it had no information about Karr's alleged actions or what he said to questioners. U.S. and Colorado law enforcement officials were unavailable for comment.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 1queerbird; alienalert; bangkok; capitalcrimes; creepy; crime; criminality; deathpenalty; extradition; ishotreagan; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; jonbenetramsey; justice; justicesystem; legal; maybeguiltymaybenot; mentalillness; murder; murderer; patsy; punishment; ramsey; thailand
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To: SlowBoat407
YES!!!!!!That's him!..........


41 posted on 08/17/2006 11:42:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: MineralMan
I think he is a nut who fantasied his involvement.If the DNA is his then a different matter.If not the Denver D.A. is leading everyone on a wild goose chase.
42 posted on 08/17/2006 11:43:12 AM PDT by ricoshea
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To: r9etb

Read the Denver Post or Rocky Mountain news coverage of this. Police held back details. This person apparently knew them.


43 posted on 08/17/2006 11:43:33 AM PDT by cosine
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To: cajungirl; MineralMan; PCBMan; Toespi; BadAndy; Eric in the Ozarks

see #41


44 posted on 08/17/2006 11:44:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: angkor
Thank you for posting those news items. I'm having a hard time reconciling the following two statements:

The Ramseys, who later moved to Atlanta, Georgia, have fought for years to clear their names of persistent accusations of involvement in the death of their daughter.

The Ramsey family lawyer said Karr once lived near the family in Georgia before they moved to Colorado.

It is my understanding the Ramsey's moved (escaped) from Colorado after their daughter's death. Yet the second statement directly contradicts that.

45 posted on 08/17/2006 11:45:02 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: spectre
"made a false confession"

Was his confession done in front of a US official or someone representing the US? Is a 'Thai' confession allowed in our system?
46 posted on 08/17/2006 11:46:47 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: ko_kyi
Someone with animation software should make a bobble-head outta this picture.


47 posted on 08/17/2006 11:47:46 AM PDT by Number57 ("Don't quote Dickens in my apartment!" Joe Young)
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To: ozzymandus
Ned Lamont?


48 posted on 08/17/2006 11:48:05 AM PDT by henbane
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To: ricoshea
Suwat said the address on the envelope provided US authorities investigating the case with a fresh clue

Wonder if there was dna on the envelope.....like when he licked the stamp?

49 posted on 08/17/2006 11:48:10 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: babble-on

That is what's know as a "pencil neck" as in "pencil necked geek"


50 posted on 08/17/2006 11:48:58 AM PDT by Frankss
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To: Concho

That is exactly what Dan Abrahams and others said on MSNBC. They felt the investigation was much farther along then the DA let on and he personally felt this man needed locked up.


51 posted on 08/17/2006 11:49:05 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: babble-on
he's got a weird neck

too much asphyxiation sex?

52 posted on 08/17/2006 11:49:50 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Peace4EarthNow

He could have drugged her with something like GHB, which is undetectable in blood in as little as six hours.


53 posted on 08/17/2006 11:50:31 AM PDT by freespirited (No pair has been more wrong, more loudly,more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts.-Zell)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

I was looking for a plastic "bobblehead" on the internet that looks like this guy to no avail. It is a miracle his tiny little neck supports that enormous cranium.

~ Blue Jays ~

54 posted on 08/17/2006 11:51:40 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Red Badger

He might look a bit like Richard Hickock, Perry Smith's murdering pal (In Cold Blood).


55 posted on 08/17/2006 11:54:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Quilla
It is my understanding the Ramsey's moved (escaped) from Colorado after their daughter's death. Yet the second statement directly contradicts that.

From what I understand, the Ramsey's lived in Georgia and had Jon Benet there. They moved to Colorado when JB was about about 2 years old. Then they moved back to Georgia after the murder.

56 posted on 08/17/2006 11:55:09 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: Red Badger; IamConservative

I'm waiting for an explanation of how he happened to know the exact amount of the bonus that John Ramsey had just received or was about to receive. The claim that he was trying to kidnap her for ransom doesn't make much sense, what with all his blather about being in love with her, unless his plan was to get the money and keep her -- but if that was the plan, why didn't he get her out of the house fast?

I agree, there's a very real possibility that this guy didn't do it, and is just fantasizing that he did. His ex-wife climing he was with her in Alabama at the time lends support to that theory. What would her motivation be for protecting him and putting herself at serious legal risk? It doesn't sound like this guy has been sending home fat alimony or child support checks. As for how he could have come upon information about the crime that was never made public, given the places he hangs out, and the intense "research" he'd been conducting for years with various people who were interested in the case, I wouldn't be surprised if he got the info from the real killer (with or without realizing that his source was in fact the real killer).


57 posted on 08/17/2006 11:56:37 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Peace4EarthNow

He looks like a young version of the president on last season's 24.


58 posted on 08/17/2006 11:56:48 AM PDT by spiffy
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To: Red Badger

Could it be that he looks like Gilbert Godfrey?


59 posted on 08/17/2006 11:57:21 AM PDT by The Kingwood Kid (Texan by birth, Republican by choice)
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To: spiffy

He looks more like Ed Greely from SNL.


60 posted on 08/17/2006 11:57:26 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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