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Duke Case: Failure of Procedure
newsmax ^ | Wednesday, Aug. 9, 2006 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 08/09/2006 9:18:34 AM PDT by flixxx

There is a scandal now brewing in the Duke lacrosse case. I'm not even sure whether to call it a rape case anymore. You're about to see why.

Consistent with the procedure in North Carolina and elsewhere, the prosecution has to turn over its evidence to the defense to prepare for trial. There's still more to come, but the bulk of what has been turned over is troubling enough. It suggests a failure to follow standard procedure that is rather mind-boggling.

Consider: The District Attorney went to the grand jury for an indictment before he even performed DNA tests (it turns out there was no match). One of the investigators was still collecting prices for DNA tests while the DA was giving interviews. He announced to the press that he was certain that a rape had taken place before excluding the possibility that the woman's physical symptoms were the result of sex with another man (turns out she'd had sex with her boyfriend within the preceding 24 hours). They were still investigating the woman's whereabouts during the 24 hours leading up to the party, and they had already been to the grand jury. The prosecutor relied on a photographic identification procedure that reportedly violated the standards of his own department. If the discovery is any indication, his case is sitting on quicksand.

None of this means the woman is lying. But at the very least, standard procedure should have been to await the results of tests, and then, given the results, the inconsistencies in the woman's statements, the fact that at least one of the boys seems to have an airtight alibi, investigate further before indicting anyone.

Instead, the train had already left the station.

It doesn't matter anymore why the DA was so determined to indict. His critics will say it was just because he was thinking about his political career. His supporters will say he really believed her, and that a District Attorney has every right to be responsive to the community that elects him. My guess is he really did believe her, but it certainly didn't hurt that he needed to. And one thing is clear: He's not going to change his mind now.

That means this case is going to trial, unless a judge steps in to stop it, which is something that rarely happens.

And of this you can be sure: No good will come of it. Trials do not tend to be healing experiences. Sides dig in. Things get more contentious, not less. Tempers are bound to flare. Reliving the evening in living color is not likely to be pretty. Hearing the racial epithets again, rereading the e-mails, all of that will not improve race relations, even if it has nothing to do with whether a rape happened or not.

Even before that, there will be the questions of who serves on the jury and what counts as a jury of their peers. Shall we start counting how many minorities there are, how many "Duke" people, how many of "us" and how many of "them"?

If she takes the stand, she'll be slaughtered on cross.

If she doesn't, the prosecution doesn't have a chance.

No one will be convinced that the case was handled fairly.

If even one of the boys is convicted, there will be outrage in the Duke community.

If they're all acquitted, there will be outrage in the black community that three white boys got away with rape.

Conservatives will be outraged that three boys' lives were ruined because an ambitious prosecutor believed a lying "slut" (as in the nuts and sluts defense), which will be played to a fare-thee-well.

Victims rights advocates like me will be depressed because we will worry, rightly, about all the messages being sent to legitimate victims.

And what would have happened if the District Attorney had waited to go to the grand jury, followed the identification procedure, let the test results come in, found out about the boyfriend and investigated enough to learn that one of the suspects had an airtight alibi? He might have decided not to file charges at all, or not to file them against these three young men.

There are reasons you follow procedures. In general, they are there to spare outrage.


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KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; lacrosse; lax
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wow...coming from Susan Estrich...
1 posted on 08/09/2006 9:18:35 AM PDT by flixxx
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To: Perdogg; Howlin; abb; Jezebelle; Locomotive Breath; maggief; ladyjane; Peach; Mike Nifong

Ping dong!


2 posted on 08/09/2006 9:21:29 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: flixxx; abb; maggief; Howlin; Sue Perkick; Mad-Margaret; Protect the Bill of Rights

((( ping )))


3 posted on 08/09/2006 9:22:01 AM PDT by TommyDale (It's time to dismiss the Duke fake rape case, Mr. Nifong!)
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To: flixxx

And then there's jesse jacksons point of view. Reward the girl whether she lied or not--she must have been a victim of racist something or another somewhere along the line.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 9:22:03 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: flixxx

It's an excellent article. She has this exactly right. When Estrich isn't being crazily partisan, she has a fine, legal mind. And she has come a long way on this case. Nifong will have a problem in the legal community after the dust has settled.


5 posted on 08/09/2006 9:22:52 AM PDT by twigs
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To: freeangel

No,no,no.

It doesn't matter if she was a victim of racism. It's payback for the racism against her 'ancestors'.


6 posted on 08/09/2006 9:23:18 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: flixxx
"And what would have happened if the District Attorney had waited to go to the grand jury, followed the identification procedure, let the test results come in, found out about the boyfriend and investigated enough to learn that one of the suspects had an airtight alibi?"

He quite possibly would have lost his reelection bid conveniently held just weeks prior to the DNA tests coming back negative.
7 posted on 08/09/2006 9:24:54 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: flixxx
Headline should be:

Susan Estrich pens for Newsmax!

Carl's looking to be politically correct and diverse?

8 posted on 08/09/2006 9:27:11 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: flixxx
Boy Estrich really nailed this one down. I usually d/n care for her viewpoints but she does understand the ramifications of this travesty over in RDU.
9 posted on 08/09/2006 9:27:58 AM PDT by Tarheel (Good fences make good neighbors--R. Frost)
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To: flixxx

Susan Estrich has got this right and it seems to me that Nifong is possibly guilty of prosecutorial misconduct.


10 posted on 08/09/2006 9:28:16 AM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: flixxx
She's written an excellent article here. Thank God I can see and read the print version rather than having to listen to her voice <<>>
11 posted on 08/09/2006 9:28:48 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: twigs
I disagree. Here's why:

"Conservatives will be outraged that three boys' lives were ruined because an ambitious prosecutor believed a lying "slut" (as in the nuts and sluts defense), which will be played to a fare-thee-well."

Conservatives (as well as anybody else) should be outraged because of prosecutorial misconduct. Estrich is backhanding conservatives as people who are quick to mischaracterize alleged rape victims as sluts.

12 posted on 08/09/2006 9:31:30 AM PDT by paddles
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To: freeangel

...wasn't that twisted logic from the fecund brain of "The Reverend" Al Sharpton...? in re: the Tawana Brawley case....? I believe his (in)famous comment was something to the effect that "well, it COULD have happened...!!".... yeah, maybe "Reverend Jessee" thinks along the same lines....


13 posted on 08/09/2006 9:32:01 AM PDT by Thunderchief F-105 ("...My mind's already made up....! Please don't confuse me with the facts....!!")
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To: TexasCajun
Syndicated column, 'original' can be viewd here - A FAILURE OF PROCEDURE?

Headline should be: Susan Estrich pens for Newsmax! Carl's looking to be politically correct and diverse?

14 posted on 08/09/2006 9:32:39 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Hey, look man, I didn't mean to shoot the son of a b!tch. The gun went off. I don't know why.)
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To: TommyDale
I'm shocked. I never thought that voice would be the voice of reason. But she nailed it.

Thanks for the ping!

15 posted on 08/09/2006 9:32:42 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: JLS; Dukie07; Guenevere; Howlin; Locomotive Breath; Jrabbit; investigateworld; maggief; TexKat; ...

Pinging the DukeLax List. Susan Estrich has an epiphany...


16 posted on 08/09/2006 9:33:20 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: flixxx
Another take from Susan

Why Would Accuser in Duke Rape Case Lie?

17 posted on 08/09/2006 9:34:24 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: flixxx

Susan Estrich finally realizes that Nifong is the enemy. She was taken in by him. It would be funny if it weren't such a miserable debacle.


18 posted on 08/09/2006 9:35:54 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: twigs

twigs wrote, "When Estrich isn't being crazily partisan..."


She will always be a partisan hack. This case has been questionable from the beginning. It doesn't take a fine, legal mind to figure it out, it just takes common sense. Maybe that explains why it took Estrich so long to see the light.


19 posted on 08/09/2006 9:36:57 AM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: Sue Perkick
"I never thought that voice would be the voice of reason."

You mean that screeching "drag your fingernails across a blackboard" voice? LOL!

20 posted on 08/09/2006 9:39:37 AM PDT by TommyDale (It's time to dismiss the Duke fake rape case, Mr. Nifong!)
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