Duke Case: Failure of Procedure

newsmax ^ | Wednesday, Aug. 9, 2006 | Susan Estrich

[TexasCajun]

Thanks for the note.

I feel a little better now but I'm sure Carl has to pay Creators.com and/or Susan to reprint her article?

[Guenevere]

abb, she may have had an epiphany.....

..but these 'facts' have been very obvious to most of us here for months!!!....Some folks here have diligently sought & produced timelines, interviews, statements from the DA, etc, etc.....

We've known in our gut..

..and many here at FR have proven conclusively..

..that what Susan is getting around to saying....has been our understanding since the get go.

Nice that she's pulled the whole scenario together .....but we're going... 'gee whiz'--Susan Estrich---

.. because she's a liberal's.. liberal and wowser, gee...she agrees with us

But it's not news.

[RSmithOpt]

Yup....seems like Ol' Susan was in lockstep with the 'victim's' point of view back in April.

Seems now, Susan has investigated, found some serious problems with the DA and his office and remembers what she wrote / said back in April. Lawyers, if they are really good, are masters at CYA>

[abb]

But it's not news

I humbly and very respectably disagree, Guen. Of course we've known for months about the facts, timelines, procedures, etc. The news of this story is that Susan Estrich has finally had to admit that she knows now...

[Niteranger68]

Simple CYA. Nothing more.

[Guenevere]

OK, abb....I give :))

[bjc]

She is pointing out some of the more obvious facts that should have stopped this case cold. But notice how she mentions nothing about the AV and the glaring inconsistencies in the AV's stories. Moreover, it is not just a matter of not following procedures: Nifong's motives are at the heart of this miscarriage of justice as they are whenever a prosecutor ignores procedures, knowingly distorts information, deliberately withholds evidence, plays to the prejudices of possible jurors and pursues an indictment without sufficient evidence.

Yes she has come over to the "right" side, but only just.

[Ready4Freddy]

LOL, guess you're about as fond of NewsMax as I am!? I do miss their forum from 4-5 years ago, tho, it was a free-for-all there, couldn't believe they let it go on so long!

[Nonstatist]

If they're all acquitted, there will be outrage in the black community that three white boys got away with rape.

I doubt there are a dozen people in the world who really believe that anymore. What tripe..

[Sue Perkick]

It's almost unbearable. LOL.

[TommyDale]

I may have missed it, but did Estrich say anywhere that she believes a rape never occurred?

[Peach]

Surprising article from Susan Estrich!

[TommyDale]

I can just hear her screechy voice addressing Sean Hannity, with that awful sounding noise, "SSSSEEEEAAAANNNNN!!!

[abb]

Lol, TD, she won't quite make that statement yet. But I suspect it was a very traumatic task to write this piece. Lot's of stewed crow there for her to digest...

[Sue Perkick]

I can hear that! LOL. She was a permanent fixture during the Peterson trial. I actually left the room a few times.

[twigs]

Have you listened to interviews with black citizens in that community? I'd say that is right on.

[abb]

this just in...

Monks still undecided about DA run
http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/469110.html

[murdoog]

Actually Estrich has been writing for Newsmax for a long time now.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

Good post. Had Estrich not written that earlier column, we would not be seeing this from her now - she is trying to regain some credibility. Here are some pearls of wisdom from that column:

To be sure, no one has explained why a woman would leave her cell phone, makeup case and money in the bathroom, but those are just details. According to the defense, she was drunk, and polishing her nails. Polishing her nails? There must be a better explanation, but that’s what a real trial is for.

What this kind of “trashing the victim” does is to reinforce the worst of the history of rape law, which is a history of both racism and sexism, in which the most serious offense was the rape of a white woman by a black man, and the least serious the rape of a black woman by anyone.

Do women lie about rape? Occasionally, but no study has ever found that women lie about rape any more often than men lie about other crimes. Why would they, given the stigma that is still attached to victims, and the humiliation involved in pursuing a complaint?

[Sue Perkick]

Absolutely. Some people don't care about the truth. It's not going to be pretty no matter what happens.