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Duke Case: Failure of Procedure
newsmax ^ | Wednesday, Aug. 9, 2006 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 08/09/2006 9:18:34 AM PDT by flixxx

There is a scandal now brewing in the Duke lacrosse case. I'm not even sure whether to call it a rape case anymore. You're about to see why.

Consistent with the procedure in North Carolina and elsewhere, the prosecution has to turn over its evidence to the defense to prepare for trial. There's still more to come, but the bulk of what has been turned over is troubling enough. It suggests a failure to follow standard procedure that is rather mind-boggling.

Consider: The District Attorney went to the grand jury for an indictment before he even performed DNA tests (it turns out there was no match). One of the investigators was still collecting prices for DNA tests while the DA was giving interviews. He announced to the press that he was certain that a rape had taken place before excluding the possibility that the woman's physical symptoms were the result of sex with another man (turns out she'd had sex with her boyfriend within the preceding 24 hours). They were still investigating the woman's whereabouts during the 24 hours leading up to the party, and they had already been to the grand jury. The prosecutor relied on a photographic identification procedure that reportedly violated the standards of his own department. If the discovery is any indication, his case is sitting on quicksand.

None of this means the woman is lying. But at the very least, standard procedure should have been to await the results of tests, and then, given the results, the inconsistencies in the woman's statements, the fact that at least one of the boys seems to have an airtight alibi, investigate further before indicting anyone.

Instead, the train had already left the station.

It doesn't matter anymore why the DA was so determined to indict. His critics will say it was just because he was thinking about his political career. His supporters will say he really believed her, and that a District Attorney has every right to be responsive to the community that elects him. My guess is he really did believe her, but it certainly didn't hurt that he needed to. And one thing is clear: He's not going to change his mind now.

That means this case is going to trial, unless a judge steps in to stop it, which is something that rarely happens.

And of this you can be sure: No good will come of it. Trials do not tend to be healing experiences. Sides dig in. Things get more contentious, not less. Tempers are bound to flare. Reliving the evening in living color is not likely to be pretty. Hearing the racial epithets again, rereading the e-mails, all of that will not improve race relations, even if it has nothing to do with whether a rape happened or not.

Even before that, there will be the questions of who serves on the jury and what counts as a jury of their peers. Shall we start counting how many minorities there are, how many "Duke" people, how many of "us" and how many of "them"?

If she takes the stand, she'll be slaughtered on cross.

If she doesn't, the prosecution doesn't have a chance.

No one will be convinced that the case was handled fairly.

If even one of the boys is convicted, there will be outrage in the Duke community.

If they're all acquitted, there will be outrage in the black community that three white boys got away with rape.

Conservatives will be outraged that three boys' lives were ruined because an ambitious prosecutor believed a lying "slut" (as in the nuts and sluts defense), which will be played to a fare-thee-well.

Victims rights advocates like me will be depressed because we will worry, rightly, about all the messages being sent to legitimate victims.

And what would have happened if the District Attorney had waited to go to the grand jury, followed the identification procedure, let the test results come in, found out about the boyfriend and investigated enough to learn that one of the suspects had an airtight alibi? He might have decided not to file charges at all, or not to file them against these three young men.

There are reasons you follow procedures. In general, they are there to spare outrage.


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To: All

Sorry if this has already been posted.

Haven't seen it on the TV, wonder why no firestorm like the Duke Case? The News & Observer gave it about 35 words buried in the back of the sports section.

Can this be right?

http://www.wftv.com/sports/9651973/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

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41 posted on 08/09/2006 10:36:56 AM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: abb

My main concern is that he would just split the vote. Not sure what the climate is in Durham, but it seems like this would favor Nifong in November.


42 posted on 08/09/2006 10:38:20 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: flixxx
None of this means the woman is lying.

No, but the fact that she gave 5 contradictory statements that are also contradicted by evidence DOES mean she is lying.

Estrich is trying to keep the false accuser out of the loop - she says it is the fault of the MAN!

A woman is never responsible for her actions. It is only man who can control their actions and must behave perfectly.

43 posted on 08/09/2006 10:38:34 AM PDT by Fido969 (Don't tread on me.)
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To: Mike Nifong
Can this be right?

This story's PBF is too low, apparently...

44 posted on 08/09/2006 10:38:54 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: flixxx; abb
Well okay--I'm completely blown away! Susan Estrich has come around...Can Wendy and Nancy be far behind?

I guess if one believes in miracles.

45 posted on 08/09/2006 10:39:58 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: Neverforget01

i really want to hear wendy murphy admit this as well.


46 posted on 08/09/2006 10:44:13 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: All

Time for a pool. Pick a date. This case is gonna be dismissed. There will be no trial. Not ever.


47 posted on 08/09/2006 10:54:47 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: Mad-Margaret

I'm in. December 1 for me...


48 posted on 08/09/2006 10:58:19 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: paddles

Didn't Sydney Blumenthal and Bill Clinton invent that defense?


49 posted on 08/09/2006 11:05:10 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: abb

My gut tells me that it will be sooner -- and with the court's time table (appointment of the new judge (what's happening with that "exceptional case" designation?), oral argument on suppression of the ID procedure, a motion to dismiss (I don't think one has been filed), time for judge to write an opinion, etc.) a better guess might be mid-October -- but I'll take

December 21

Duke will on Christmas break and the dismissal will need some cooling time.


50 posted on 08/09/2006 11:14:43 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
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To: flixxx
Maybe Susan could have been a bit more direct with Mr. Nifong as was Colonel Nathan Jessep to Lt. Daniel Kaffee in A Few Good Men
Please tell me you've got something more, Lieutenant. Please tell me there's an ace up your sleeve. These two marines are on trial for their lives. Please tell me their lawyer hasn't pinned their hopes to a phone bill.

51 posted on 08/09/2006 11:17:14 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill

Reckon Nifong can handle the truth?


52 posted on 08/09/2006 11:23:33 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

ANNOUNCING THE SALE OF 7 TRINITY PARK PROPERTIES
Owned by Durham Realty, Inc., a support corporation of Duke University
[Formerly Owned by Solie Family]



http://www.realestate.duke.edu/trinpark.htm


53 posted on 08/09/2006 11:28:26 AM PDT by maggief
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To: abb
Reckon Nifong can handle the truth?

Nifong's sees "truth" the way an umpire saw balls and strikes when I was a kid... He once told me "it ain't nothing til I call it"...

54 posted on 08/09/2006 11:31:49 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Mad-Margaret
Am I too optimistic to say September 19th? Don't know why, just picked a day. So does the winner of the pool get say 2 weeks of bragging rights and praise?
55 posted on 08/09/2006 11:34:44 AM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: Mad-Margaret

"Time for a pool. Pick a date."

August 21st hearing (effectively; what happens there will make it impossible to continue with the case)

Otherwise we pin donkey ears on Titus.


56 posted on 08/09/2006 11:35:09 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: maggief
I read early on the Duke had bought up the houses to resell them to families that would be more stable than the students who currently occupied them.

I wonder how many Fair Housing Act violations will be committed before Duke gets the "right kind of people" into the "neighborhood".

57 posted on 08/09/2006 11:37:49 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Mike Nifong; abb; All
Ex-Girlfriend: Fight Over Alleged Affair Led To Ex-Wolfpack Star's Arrest
Marcus Melvin Appears In Court On Strangulation Charges

POSTED: 12:06 pm EDT August 9, 2006

http://www.wral.com/news/9653682/detail.html

PITTSBORO, N.C. -- A former North Carolina State basketball player made his first court appearance on charges he tried to strangle his ex-girlfriend.

Marcus Melvin appeared before the judge Wednesday at the Chatham County courtroom and did not say anything after his court appearance.

Shaunesi DeBerry said she argued with Melvin after she learned that he was cheating on her with a woman in Italy and that the other woman was pregnant with his child. She alleges that in the heat of the argument, he placed his hands around his neck.

"I looked on the phone bill and I saw a number on there from a girl from Italy. She told me that she was pregnant," DeBerry said. "He got mad that I found out because I wasn't supposed to find out."

Melvin played for the Wolfpack from 2000 to 2004. Since graduating from the university, he has played basketball professionally in Italy.

DeBerry said she and Melvin lived together for three years and had problems throughout their relationship. According to court documents, Melvin pleaded guilty three months ago to misdemeanor charges of assaulting and threatening Deberry. Melvin was also accused of assaulting another woman, but charges were voluntarily dismissed.

Still, DeBerry said she does not hold a grudge against Melvin.

"I love Marcus to death to this day, even after all the fights, all the women, all of the heat and beating, I love him to death and that is why he needs help," she said.

DeBerry said that is why she reported the latest incident to police.

"I don't want him to go to jail. He is not a criminal. He is not criminal-minded," she said. "He can't control it because it is something that gets into it. It just happened and I want him to get to get help."

DeBerry and Melvin share an 8-month-old child together. DeBerry said she wants to put the incident behind her and go back to college. Melvin's next court date is scheduled for Sept. 11.
58 posted on 08/09/2006 11:38:16 AM PDT by maggief
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To: bjc
"But at the very least, standard procedure should have been to await the results of tests, and then, given the results, the inconsistencies in the woman's statements, the fact that at least one of the boys seems to have an airtight alibi, investigate further before indicting anyone."

But notice how she mentions nothing about the AV and the glaring inconsistencies in the AV's stories.

Look again.

59 posted on 08/09/2006 11:48:18 AM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Nonstatist

Unfortunately you are mistaken.

A common theme running through the Durham AA community is that the "Duke boys 'bought' the DNA results, the alibis, etc."

The other main theory goes, "Even if they didn't rape her, they were planning to, so they deserve what they get!"

If they are tried by a black jury in Durham, they are going down.


60 posted on 08/09/2006 11:52:15 AM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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