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Rare Lincoln Letter Found in Allentown
AP ^ | July 19, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2006 3:22:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) - July 19, 2006 - A University of Illinois researcher had discovered a fourth copy of a rare letter Abraham Lincoln had written by to the nation's governors in 1861.

The letter John Lupton found Tuesday in the Lehigh County Historical Society's holdings was one Lincoln wrote as part of an unsuccessful ratification process for a constitutional amendment Congress adopted during the term of his predecessor, President James Buchanan, that would have made slavery the law of the land.

The president remembered for abolishing slavery had been willing to push the amendment as "kind of a carrot to the Southern states" if that would preserve the union, said Lupton, associate director of the Papers of Abraham Lincoln Project of the Illinois Historic Preservation Agency.

"But even by that point, it was too late. By that time, the Southern states felt Lincoln's election was an affront," Lupton said. In fact, the letter discovered in Allentown was addressed to "His Excellency the Governor of the State of Florida," which had seceded from the union two months earlier.

Until Tuesday, only three of the letters were known to have survived. "It's a very cool document," Lupton said.

Joseph Garrera, the historical society director, said he will consult with the society's board to determine the best way to display the document and try to figure out exactly who donated the letter.


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To: stand watie

Maybe you should bitch to Jeff Davis' kin, in that case.


181 posted on 08/01/2006 9:03:31 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: stand watie
Let me put it another way, STAND, as soon as you show up on a thread all adult discussions tend to stop because you have the same answers for every discussion you not asked to be involved in,

"all of you god damned Yankees and treasonous scalawags need to shut up and go to the Confederate Library read the truth about the glorious southland"

(Note: for the illustration purposes only I made the previous example of a typical WATIEism actually readable as well as understandable).

It's not hard to reason why you would want to do so either, you are a disruptor, plain and simple you can't allow any adult conversations to proceed about the south on this board, you can't allow history to be examined, you can't allow the motives of the principles in the civil war to be studied and critiqued, you can't allow any discussion that points out why the democrats were wrong to rebel. You can't allow the free and open discussion of ideas and opinions in this forum that are in direct conflict with those points you aspire to profess.

In short you can't allow anything that discusses the south in any way that doesn't fit your template of how it should be viewed to occur. That makes you and your southerbuddies no better then the commies or the democrats when it comes to burying the truth beneath a barrage of attacks.

And all that forced pathos of yours...."9765.27 members of my own family were slaughtered like cattle by the union forces, men women children killed in the Dachau of the north Camp Point Blank. You'll never know the horrors I feel, for the family members I never knew, never talk to, couldn't name, would know if they walked up to me and put a gun to my head and am just making up to bolster my status as America's singular long suffering southerner and the last lonely confederate patriot living beneath the overpass on I-95 North outside of Florence, South Carolina by a South of the Border billboard"

Even if it were all true, you couldn't be a more pathetic excuse for a southerner in the 21st century, wanna flag a confederate flag without being thought a racist, stop acting like a racist in the first place, stop hanging around with racists, and start actually believing that it was the democrats that ruined the south in the first place in so many ways that it isn't funny, then maybe, just maybe we'll be allowed to honor those that fell defending their land and homes because of the idiocy of the democrats.

Or don't and slowly watch as anything with a confederate flag get banned by the democrats for the purposes of political power plays and southern history get buried or rewritten so that their part in the Civil war becomes unknown, it won't be long until democrats in the civil war are known as the "southern" party in the history books. all it takes is two generations of children taught that way, and the democrats can erase their part in the civil war, just like they erased their violent opposition to civil rights. No where in textbooks today will you find that Democrats attacked civil rights protesters with dogs or water cannons, or that every politician that said "they shall not pass" in front of a nonintigrated school was a democrat. Two generations STAND that's all it took to rewrite history.

But what do you care so long as Lincoln and the Republicans are portrayed as the villains, right?

182 posted on 08/02/2006 5:05:36 AM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
NOPE. that would be like "complaining to your local rabbi" about what was done by the SS scum.

i put the BLAME where it BELONGS, i.e. on lincoln & his merry band of crooks, thugs & scum.

free dixie,sw

183 posted on 08/02/2006 7:29:18 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra; All
what an UTTERLY STUPID, DISHONEST & arrogantly IGNORANT post, by a SCALAWAG/turncoat to his native southland!!!

and people wonder why you get RIDICULED as a hate-FILLED,REVISIONIST, ignorant, FOOL???? (i think that looking at just ONE of you posts removes all doubt as to why! perhaps a FEW people need to read TWO to know what everyone laughs AT you about.)

free dixie,sw

184 posted on 08/02/2006 7:33:45 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
You have difficulty with analogies, I see. It would be more like a German citizen complaining to the relatives of Adolf Hitler trying to get their hands on royalties from Mein Kampf. Adolf actually led their country into disaster, just like Jefferson Davis. Most mentally healthy Jews know it's a recipe for unhappiness to live in 1941 when it's 2006. You should do the same. It's not 1861 any more.

In any event, you're not a survivor of the Civil War, so no, the analogy does not hold anyway. Regardless of any perceived wrongs, the south started the war. The Japanese thought they were justified in bombing Pearl Harbor too, but any way you slice it, the Confederacy fired the first shot, just like he Japanese Empire did in 1941.

Like I said, Jeff Davis and his gang started the party but couldn't stay up all night to finish it. Maybe they should have thought more about what they were doing before they got all uppity.
185 posted on 08/02/2006 8:00:42 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: stand watie

If you can't listen to me, follow Robert E. Lee's advice:

"The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He can not only forgive; he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which imparts sufficient strength to let the past be put the past."


186 posted on 08/02/2006 8:03:56 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
SORRY, but i believe that your mind is closed and that there is NO point in arguing with a person of such preconceived, simplistic, notions.

free dixie,sw

187 posted on 08/02/2006 8:24:53 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
anyone who FORGETS the past is DOOMED to repeat it's HORRORS!

free dixie,sw

188 posted on 08/02/2006 8:25:54 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
actually, you are, as MOST "yankee apologists" are, 100% WRONG about who started the WBTS. the war actually started in about 1855 , when the KS jayhawkers started raiding farms & towns in MO, AR & IT.

the firing on FT Sumter was in response to linoln's LYING. he had stated in a letter that the fort would NOT be "resupplied", but rather would be VACATED at the earliest possible moment. (unfortunately for DY apologists, lincoln's letter still exists.) LYING has CONSEQUENCES.

the BLAME for the loss of a MILLION PEOPLE in the UNJUST & UNNECESSARY war against the new dixie republic MUST, in the interest of both TRUTH & common DECENCY, be laid at lincoln's feet. HE was responsible & all the soap in the universe will not wash the innocent blood of a MILLION Americans from his hands/memory.

free dixie,sw

189 posted on 08/02/2006 9:01:24 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
(unfortunately for DY apologists, lincoln's letter still exists.)

On board a U-Boat? Chalk up another Watie lie.

190 posted on 08/02/2006 9:50:37 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: stand watie

Hi,
Seems like more and more, "embarrassing facts" are being found that point to Lincoln not being a, "swell guy". I'm referring to this letter, and the mass grave of black people found in New York, uncovered by an archeologist(article on FR)...


191 posted on 08/02/2006 10:18:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
and the mass grave of black people found in New York

What mass grave? Are you talking about the colonial era one found in Manhattan a few years back?

192 posted on 08/02/2006 11:12:54 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: stand watie

I'm still waiting for whatever lies you have created about my service to this country, any time you feel like eating your words STAND.


193 posted on 08/02/2006 1:54:45 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
isn't that SAD for the WORSHIPERS of the FALSE god, "lincoln, the TYRANT & WAR CRIMINAL", who is the clay-footed,SECULAR saint of DAMNyankeeland???

lincoln & wee willie klintoon were about the same sort of POTUS. BOTH would do ANYTHING to get more MONEY & POWER. NEITHER were decent/moral people.

free dixie,sw

194 posted on 08/02/2006 2:45:25 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
i created NOTHING. in point of fact, i asked you to tell me what the TRUTH is, as i got an e-mail from an (UNKNOWN to me) person, which questioned WHETHER you ever were a US marine or not. i KNOW zilch more than what he said, thus i asked you for the TRUTH.

but like "HANOI-John" Kerry, you duck/dodge/equivocate/evade & TRY desperately to CHANGE the SUBJECT, away from your claimed service.

"how about those apples, Mr 0000???"

would you care to give all of us a TRUTHFUL & DIRECT answer for ONCE???

free dixie,sw

195 posted on 08/02/2006 2:50:28 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Yeah. And I like reading the descriptions, for they are quite accurate. However, I really do think Clinton simply doesn't have the same, "Mean Streak" that Lincoln had, even though he'll do just about anything for $$$$. But Hillary does. Anyway, Lincoln just had a special hatred for the South, and that made it all extra easy for him to obliterate as many Southerners as he chose via his henchmen. Many bad decisions are being made today as a result of the false information that, Lincoln sits at the right hand of God...


196 posted on 08/02/2006 3:07:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: stand watie
Go tell the Carthaginians.
197 posted on 08/02/2006 4:26:13 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
how can you tell the KLINTOONS apart?? where does "wee willie klintoon" stop & "HITLERry rodham klintoon" start?

they seem "joined at the hip" & interchangeable.

once more, the KLINTOONS & lincoln, the TYRANT, are morally reprehensible TO decent FOLK, as ALL of them would do ANYTHING for POWER & MONEY. ANYTHING!

free dixie,sw

198 posted on 08/02/2006 7:55:21 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
nope. i'll just continue to make the ATROCITIES of the DAMNyankee beasts PUBLIC.

even though people like you do NOT find their conduct REPREHENSIBLE, most readers are HORRIFIED, by what the heroes of "the crusade against slavery" actually DID.

free dixie,sw

199 posted on 08/02/2006 7:58:27 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

I'll post a picture of me in uniform when you do STAND.


200 posted on 08/02/2006 9:00:56 PM PDT by usmcobra (Hey Stand, who's standing in Lee Circle?)
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