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Big Dig Expoxy procedure puzzling, Engineering comments welcome
The Boston Globe ^ | July 17, 2006 | NonValueAdded

Posted on 07/17/2006 3:34:43 PM PDT by NonValueAdded

According to a "How Epoxy Works" illustration at the link above, there was no pre-mixing of the epoxy. Instead, the "resin and hardener [are] applied separately into the drilled hole" and "screwing the anchor bolt into the hole mixes [the] components." The graphic lists the "1998 State Inspector General Report" as the source, graphic prepared by David Butler of the Globe Staff.

Can you all not see a half-dozen ways that is a recipe for disaster? A quick google search about epoxy has most application instructions starting with a mix of the ingredients, either separately or throught the delivery device. But squirt the stuff in separately and rely on turning the bolt to ensure a good mix???

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: bigdig; epoxy; itwillwork
[Graphic not provided because of copyright issues with the Boston Globe's parent company.]

Engineers, is this application method as whacked out as I think it is?

1 posted on 07/17/2006 3:34:46 PM PDT by NonValueAdded
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To: NonValueAdded

Sorry about the title typo.


2 posted on 07/17/2006 3:35:24 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Go home and fix Mexico)
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To: NonValueAdded

It could work if you were hanging a flowerpot.


3 posted on 07/17/2006 3:37:33 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: finnman69

what do you think about this?


4 posted on 07/17/2006 3:46:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Go home and fix Mexico)
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To: NonValueAdded
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5 posted on 07/17/2006 3:50:08 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: NonValueAdded
I'd be pretty surpirised if the epoxy was actually applied this way. The two-part dispenser with a mixing nozzle is just to0 readily available and convenient.

Maybe the guy who wrote the report is confused.

From what I read, the bigger problem was adequately cleaning the holes and appying adequate adhesive.

6 posted on 07/17/2006 3:50:56 PM PDT by keat (I'm carbon neutral - how 'bout you?)
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To: NonValueAdded

I am not an engineer, but why do people think think this might not be acceptable out of hand?

I would ask how much clearance is involved between the sides of the hole and the bolt, for starters. Obviously (to this non-engineer) if the tolerances are very small, it is likely that the majority of the epoxy might just squirt out the top without mixing in any kind of appropriate quantities.

If it is a pretty sloppy fit, it sound reasonable to me on the surface.


7 posted on 07/17/2006 4:25:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: NonValueAdded

I'm not an engineer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.


8 posted on 07/17/2006 4:27:05 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Here's an article from Engineering News Record web site from the AP.

ENR will be the best source for engineering analysis and technical discussion of the failure mechanisms.

ENR is the voice of the American engineering and construction industry.construction


9 posted on 07/17/2006 4:36:16 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: NonValueAdded

Here is a link to Engineering News Record for those following the story.

ENR will tell the story unabridged by the pressies

http://enr.ecnext.com/free-scripts/comsite2.pl?page=enr_document&article=netrar060712a


10 posted on 07/17/2006 4:38:01 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: NonValueAdded

I'm not an engineer, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night.

And that sounds TOTALLY whacked.

Here's an example from Mom's kitchen, of all places. She used to make a "marble cake." She would pour some chocolate cake batter into a pan and then carefully pour on some vanilla cake batter. She then took a knife, pierced the batter (drilled the hole), then pulled the knife around in a design.

Of course, the batter did not combine into one batter.


11 posted on 07/17/2006 6:40:42 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: freedumb2003

Ah! You got me and I posted before reading down the thread!


12 posted on 07/17/2006 6:41:29 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

LOL -- you gotta be fast off the draw here, amigo :)


13 posted on 07/17/2006 7:52:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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Kitty Dukakis often successfully mixed liquids in this fashion.


14 posted on 07/18/2006 9:02:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Wednesday, June 21, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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