Posted on 07/12/2006 1:52:14 AM PDT by abb
Phone use spans time of team party
In the middle of a Duke lacrosse party where a dancer said she was gang-raped for 30 minutes, a call was placed from her cell phone to a Durham escort service.
The 12:26 a.m. call to the service, Centerfold, lasted one minute, according to a copy of her cell phone bill reviewed by The News & Observer. It is unclear whether the call was a request for another job, a cry for help or something else, or even whether the accuser made the call herself.
But the accuser's phone records add some details to the chronology of the March 13 party, a drunken spring break bash that spawned a national controversy.
Neither prosecutors nor defense lawyers would discuss the phone records Tuesday. Neither the accuser nor a second dancer at the party could be reached, nor could representatives of Centerfold. Police Chief Steve Chalmers was out of town; his spokeswoman said he would not discuss the case.
Three players have been charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping: Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J.; Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md. Lawyers for the players have proclaimed their clients' innocence and said no rape or sex occurred at the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.
District Attorney Mike Nifong, whose handling of the case has undergone national scrutiny, has been adamant that the woman was raped at the party. Nifong has not given a precise timeline of when he thinks an assault occurred.
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I hate to say it--that was a "crock"
It is apparently the policy of local news media in Durham and Raleigh to not publish names of criminal politicians or dirty cops.
$400,000 in idle funds that you can come up with quickly is rare in any but the highest income levels. Even in kidnap cases involving very wealthy people they often do not have that kind of money at hand.
Also the parents of 20 year olds are often 40 somethings who tie their money up trying to maximize their retirement. An older wealthy person might be more likely to have the money on hand, but even then $400,000 is a big chunk to have quick access to without borrowing.
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This does lend credence to the theory that Crystal was allowed to operate (explains why no prostitution charges on her record) and may explain the comments about the young-uns, like the Police were familar with Crystal in some fashion.
This would also explain some other things.
That was pre-emptive IMO.
Nifong probably can't believe NOT one newspaper in the country has reported Crystal was an active prostitute - even with Jarriel Johnson's handwritten statement on line for all to see.
Even though everyone knows she had 2 Drivers !
The Papers haven't even speculated on it. Must be nice to be a liberal Democrat District Attorney
Well, I'm not in that category, but we stretch and strain to send our children to the fancy private school so that we don't have to put up with the government school. (Having taught at State U. for 14 years, I know how erratic is the quality of the gov. schools.)
There are people at this fancy private school that could find that kind of money by a home equity loan in about 15 minutes. Some of them could find it in the loose change in their sofa. "The Rich are not like you and I" said F. Scott Fitzgerald.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1618930/posts?page=117#117
Anyone know what became of that investigation?
Ted and Greta "on the Street" talking about DC's crime emergency.
I wonder if Colin the Punch Faker will be profiled?
I looked for the results of that investigation. The best I could find was something like [paraphrased] 'nothing was proven.'
Or as we say here, before the defecation hits the ventilation...
(see post #617 on this thread)
That's IF he can get the trials separated. It doesn't make sense from a judicial standpoint to allow that, but of course we're talking about Durhams so all bets are off.
It does identify race.
Here's the extension of the reasoning: If the purpose was to identify the party-goers for its own sake OR to learn who all the witnesses could be, then it makes no sense to exclude the black player and non-players. Therefore, excluding ANYBODY doesn't accomplish the objective of identifying party-goers no matter the purpose for wanting to know. Okay. We all understand that. So, the question becomes, why were they excluded? The only possible answer is that this was actually a search to exclude anybody who is not a white lax player from the universe of potential suspects. The fact that those were the only photos she was ever shown at any photo line-up and that she was never shown any "fillers" means that only lax players became "fillers" after the fact of Mangum making her identification, and it is for that reason that Nifong is going to lose the IDs under the ruling of any rational judge in a reasonably just forum. So, the next question is, why did Nifong think this would fly? Did he do it just to get the indictments, knowing he will lose the IDs but that will come after the election so he doesn't care if he does lose the IDs, or did he do it because he has reason to feel assured he will win the ruling on the IDs? If the latter, why does he have reason to believe he will win the ruling on the IDs?
No, first he was taking her to the drunk tank. Some minutes later she was turned over to a female DPD officer for transport to Durham Access. I think the check the young 'uns thingy was part of that activity and yes, it was a male voice, and I think it was Shelton.
I don't understand the 11th Circuit decision at all. In order to defend themselves in the university setting in terms of their academic careers, they have to give their version of events, which causes them to, in effect, give up their Fifth and Sixth Amendment protections in the future criminal trial because anything they said in the university investigation can be held against them. It looks like a bad decision to me for both universities and any college students who become defendants. It doesn't seem much different than the issue of suing defendants civilly in advance of their criminal trials - the defendants can't be forced to give up their Fifth Amendment right in a civil case so they can't be deposed or cross-examined.
She never was on parole. Parole is granted to prisoners serving time in state prisons, not probationers or people serving county jail time.
Bingo! There it is. Part of her probation is that she MUST submit to drug-testing. When Shelton ID'd her that night, that term, along with others, would have popped up on their local DPD record for her. Shelton was going to take her for a blood draw and she would have had her probation violated because she would have tested positive. That's why she cried rape and that's why she was pissed off at Shelton and didn't want to talk to him anymore.
Now, it's previously been reported that blood was drawn at Duke Medical but hasn't been screened yet, OR MAYBE: She WAS mandatorily tested but those test results are actually part of HER OLD CASE and THAT is what Nifong is holding against her, and that's why there is no tox screen associated with the rape case - it's tied to her probation case and Nifong is holding it back as part of the old case against Mangum. So, the defense needs to subpoena that record to see if there is a test there. This certainly would explain the confusion and mystery of what was tested and/or why she wasn't tested as part of the rape case. It would also explain her comments to UNC Medical the next day that she had a whole lot to drink the night before.
Very, very interesting. I think we're getting somewhere now.
That's a pretty extreme opinion. This case is an anomaly, and is not routine.
A DDA may be immune from disciplinary action, but he shouldn't expect any promotions if he's routinely dragging people into court on bogus charges who are acquitted in five minutes. Any DDA who did that might actually find himself on probationary status after awhile, and terminated if he didn't imrpove.
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