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Call adds mystery to lacrosse case (DukeLax)
News and Observer ^ | July 12, 2006 | Joseph Neff

Posted on 07/12/2006 1:52:14 AM PDT by abb

Phone use spans time of team party

In the middle of a Duke lacrosse party where a dancer said she was gang-raped for 30 minutes, a call was placed from her cell phone to a Durham escort service.

The 12:26 a.m. call to the service, Centerfold, lasted one minute, according to a copy of her cell phone bill reviewed by The News & Observer. It is unclear whether the call was a request for another job, a cry for help or something else, or even whether the accuser made the call herself.

But the accuser's phone records add some details to the chronology of the March 13 party, a drunken spring break bash that spawned a national controversy.

Neither prosecutors nor defense lawyers would discuss the phone records Tuesday. Neither the accuser nor a second dancer at the party could be reached, nor could representatives of Centerfold. Police Chief Steve Chalmers was out of town; his spokeswoman said he would not discuss the case.

Three players have been charged with first-degree rape, sexual offense and kidnapping: Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J.; Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, N.Y.; and Dave Evans, 23, of Bethesda, Md. Lawyers for the players have proclaimed their clients' innocence and said no rape or sex occurred at the house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.

District Attorney Mike Nifong, whose handling of the case has undergone national scrutiny, has been adamant that the woman was raped at the party. Nifong has not given a precise timeline of when he thinks an assault occurred.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsobserver.com ...


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The NandO finally does some reporting...
1 posted on 07/12/2006 1:52:17 AM PDT by abb
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To: Guenevere; JLS; Dukie07; Howlin; Locomotive Breath; Jrabbit; investigateworld; maggief; TexKat; ...

Pinging the DukeLax list...


2 posted on 07/12/2006 1:53:16 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
If the FA didn't mention it in her initial report, this is series.
But with NiFong?
Still, why not 911?
3 posted on 07/12/2006 1:59:46 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: abb

Waiting game could hurt Cheek
http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/459754.html

Finnerty guilty in D.C. case
http://www.newsobserver.com/736/story/459589.html

Finnerty guilty of assault near D.C. bar
http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-751786.html

Nifong has handled the lacrosse case properly
http://www.heraldsun.com/opinion/hsletters/index.html#751691


4 posted on 07/12/2006 2:02:57 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

Fresh activity on the blog...
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/editor/index.php?title=duke_case_coverage_1&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#comments


5 posted on 07/12/2006 2:05:04 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

Well, this isn't a real helpful article. All we know is that her phone was used at 12:26am. We don't know when it was last used before that. My guess is that she made this call to her pimp, probably for a ride since they were leaving long before the scheduled time, right before she went ass-over-teakettle down the back steps. She didn't reach him so she went to go down the steps to get in the car with Kim and fell and dumped some of her stuff in the yard.

What about Kim's cell phone records?


6 posted on 07/12/2006 2:06:35 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

Lol, imo, the phone call isn't the story. The story is that the NandO has finally gotten off its fat behind and done some real reporting, hehehe...


7 posted on 07/12/2006 2:08:12 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
The defense is going to tear this bunch new a**holes during the trial. That's assuming one actually happens.

Unreal. Just frigging unreal.

L

8 posted on 07/12/2006 2:12:14 AM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: abb

I only found one comment that was about coverage of the case, but nothing about the case itself. Did I miss something?


9 posted on 07/12/2006 2:14:20 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

Lol, Jez, I was trying to be sarcastic. Hehe, it's too early in the morning for me to try and be clever.

Seriously, though, maybe all those complaints on Melanie Sill's blog are having an effect...


10 posted on 07/12/2006 2:18:09 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

It would help if I read the entire article before I post. I didn't notice it was an excerpt.

So the earliest she could have arrived was 11:39. Add a minute to get out (or fall out) of the car and start to walk up, so 11:40 is more accurate. We know, according to neighbor Bissey, the women talked to one of the players for 5 to 10 minutes on the side porch before going in - probably closer to five, so let's say 6 minutes and they enter at 11:47. They mill around a couple minutes and get ready to perform, about 5-7 minutes, so they start the dance about 11:55. They perform about 10 minutes, until 12:05 or 12:06, then head to the bathroom. Reade makes his first call at 12:07 and is gone by 12:14. Even if they can't prove the women went into the bathroom, Reade had about 1 minute to commit the rape. If Reade couldn't have committed the rape, then neither could the other two, according to Nifong's story, because they were all in the bathroom simultaneously and Mangum ID'd Reade 100%.

Oops.


11 posted on 07/12/2006 2:36:51 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Lurker

Yeah, remember Nifong saying in response to being questioned about Reade's timeline that, "What if that's not my timeline?" Nifong is stuck with the 11:40 arrival at the earliest, and photos of them dancing as of 12:05 lock the time frame for the rape after that. Nobody in their right or wrong mind is going to dance after experiencing a violent gang-bang rape and Kim has already put them continuously together until after they stopped dancing anyway. So Nifong is stuck with a post-12:06 rape with a defendant on his phone almost continuously starting at 12:07 and out the door at 12:14 - 12:16. Mangum says the rape was thirty minutes, but even if it was half that long 15 minutes - it still could not have happened. Even Nifong's Democrat fuzzy math isn't going to get him around the timeline.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 2:46:05 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: abb

Adds mystery?

There's no mystery here. This is a lynch mob led by Nifong


13 posted on 07/12/2006 2:46:40 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Jezebelle
Nifongs only hope is to get a jury of complete mouthbreathing morons with an attention span of a gnat.

Chances are though the defense will ask for a summary judgement and short circuit the jury.

No judge in his right mind is going to let this train wreck happen in his courtroom.

L

14 posted on 07/12/2006 2:53:04 AM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: abb

"The NandO finally does some reporting..."

Yeah, but Melanie made them put it in the sports section.


15 posted on 07/12/2006 2:59:58 AM PDT by JoanOfArk
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To: Jezebelle
Here's another key point buried in the story...

There is nothing in evidence reviewed by The N&O or filed in court to indicate that Durham police investigated the call made at 12:26 a.m.

16 posted on 07/12/2006 3:02:40 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: Lurker
No judge in his right mind is going to let this train wreck happen in his courtroom.

I think you just hit on a potential problem with this case....

With RARE exception, "judge" and "right mind" just don't belong together...

17 posted on 07/12/2006 3:04:09 AM PDT by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: dirtbiker
You're correct. I forgot about that.

Your insight goes double if the judge is a Democrat.

L

18 posted on 07/12/2006 3:06:19 AM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: abb

WaPo's story on Finnerty...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/11/AR2006071100806.html


19 posted on 07/12/2006 3:08:12 AM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb
There it is! I knew I had read this early on in the case! She had made calls, I recall. Not just one call.

In the middle of a Duke lacrosse

20 posted on 07/12/2006 3:46:08 AM PDT by Alia
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