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GENDER IDENTITY: 5-year-old 'girl' starting school is really a boy
The Miami Herald ^ | July 10, 2006 | Roberto Santiago

Posted on 07/10/2006 11:32:19 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle

Broward County schools' progressive policy on transgendered children will be tested by the admission to kindergarten this fall of a boy who believes that he's a girl.

BY ROBERTO SANTIAGO rsantiago@MiamiHerald.com

One little girl entering Broward County kindergarten this fall is actually a boy.

Few will know this genetic truth, because the 5-year-old's parents and school administrators have agreed that it's in his best interest to blend in as a female.

Mental health professionals have diagnosed Pat -- not his real name -- with gender dysphoria, a condition in which a person believes that he or she is the opposite gender. After two years of examination, they have determined that he is not simply effeminate or going through a phase.

(Excerpt) Read more at miami.com ...


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To: martin_fierro

xskids and i were eating dinner at a chilis a month or so ago. we were waited on by a transgendered individual in some transitional phase... as soon as he/she/it walked away with our order, i said to xskids DO NOT SAY A WORD, WE WILL DISCUSS THIS IN THE CAR....


61 posted on 07/10/2006 12:12:44 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Red Badger

Some might think the problem is someone else has shown him some other uses already that have caused him this difficulty.


62 posted on 07/10/2006 12:13:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rightinthemiddle
I am convinced I'm female also, but nobody believes me.
What's up with that?
63 posted on 07/10/2006 12:14:22 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: rightinthemiddle

More idiocy from the Sheeple's Republic of Broward, aka the GAYEST county in Florida (see Wilton Manors, Las Olas, Hollywood Beach).


64 posted on 07/10/2006 12:17:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (I don't want the world, I just want YOUR half!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I hope you're not sending your kids to public school in this f-cked up county.


65 posted on 07/10/2006 12:18:48 PM PDT by Clemenza (I don't want the world, I just want YOUR half!)
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To: weegee
Gender dysphoria, however, is not cross dressing. I don't know what causes it, but it's a real condition of some people. They believe they are in the body of the wrong sex. In fact, many people with GD don't like being lumped in with homosexual activists. I know a few GD people and they have a hard life because they're not part of either the heterosexual or homosexual world.
66 posted on 07/10/2006 12:22:12 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: synbad600

He will never get a period if he has male genitals.

Gabor


67 posted on 07/10/2006 12:27:14 PM PDT by Casio
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To: lastchance

It sounds abusive to me too. But I'm sure legal guidelines for this are incredibly vague and rely largely on the advice of physicians re individual cases. And of course, we may yet find some clear physiological abnormality that accounts for some of these cases, just as a few decades ago we didn't have the ability to inventory chromosomes to pin point that sort of abnormality. But with a young child who is anatomically and chromosomally normal, it seems to me it would always be better to encourage formal identification with the apparent gender, and just be very flexible about the child's behavior. Even giving the benefit of the doubt that there might be physiological abnormality that we just can't identify yet, it's still going to be better in most cases for the child/adult to choose the roles s/he wants in life without surgery and/or hormonal interventions that just result in another form of being neither a normal male nor a normal female.

I had a passing acquaintance (she was mainly of friend of some friends of mine) with a woman who had been born an anatomical hermaphrodite and surgically made as female as possible. She made the right choice for her (I'm not sure what sort of chromosomes she had), but with the hell she went through growing up, it's a wonder she didn't become a serial killer. Her parents were evangelical Christians of some sort, and the father was apparently totally domineering in the home. He wanted a son and that was that; the mother either didn't have or wasn't free to express an opinion different from her husband's. Bottom line was that through middle school this poor child had to leave home dressed as a boy, but was met nearby by a sympathetic school counselor who let her change clothes before arriving at school. She was later put in foster care (IIRC because the father was physically abusive), and lived as a girl. She had the surgery somewhere along the line, and finally started college in her early 40s. Last I heard she was in law school. I don't know what became of her, but she's an example of why there need to be some clear legal standards about this sort of thing.


68 posted on 07/10/2006 12:44:14 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GAB-1955
Gender dysphoria, however, is not cross dressing. I don't know what causes it, but it's a real condition of some people. They believe they are in the body of the wrong sex. In fact, many people with GD don't like being lumped in with homosexual activists. I know a few GD people and they have a hard life because they're not part of either the heterosexual or homosexual world.

I'm not a rocket scientist but it seems like this would show up more post puberty and into early adult life when sexuality becomes more demanding on the mind and body. 5-6 years old though? Yea even kids will dress up like mom and dad but I find it hard to believe a kid that young would be effected so radically.

69 posted on 07/10/2006 12:49:17 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: r9etb

Sounds to me like the kid has a problem. And there do seem to be kids who are simply born with such problems: from the earliest age, they simply believe that they are and should be the other gender, and there's nothing anybody can do to convince them otherwise.

All of you with zero compassion ought to be glad you don't have a kid with a similar problem.


70 posted on 07/10/2006 12:49:23 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: rightinthemiddle
So, at 3 yrs old, he was crawling out of his crib and into momma's closet and makeup drawer so often mommy thought he'd better be tested?

If you think things are confused now, just wait till Mr. Woody wakes up!

71 posted on 07/10/2006 1:01:17 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

There's legit reasoning for questioning. Most LCSW's and Psychologist etc are fine dedicated professionals. But there are exceptions and those exceptions have an agenda some of which are of the predatory or activist mode. To some of us who have raised our kids and have grandkids we are skeptical. BTW I speak as one who knew kids of about every physical and mental disorder you could name. I don't doubt the existence of such disorder especially later in their childhood. I question this very early age of onset on highly impressionable time in his life.


72 posted on 07/10/2006 1:01:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe (If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
Sounds to me like the kid has a problem.

There’s no doubt about that. Odds are the biggest problem is the mother with the counseling degree. There was another story posted on this a few weeks ago. When spoken to by a reporter, the child goes into a long dissertation about wanting to hammer his penis and wishing he had a vagina. He’s all up to date on anatomically correct language no five year old ever heard of.

The most likely disorder in this family is some bazaar version of Munchausen by a lunatic mother wishing she had another daughter.

73 posted on 07/10/2006 1:02:27 PM PDT by Minn
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To: cva66snipe
Actually, it can. This is why I withhold judgment on GD cases.
74 posted on 07/10/2006 1:04:27 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: TexasCajun
So, at 3 yrs old, he was crawling out of his crib and into momma's closet and makeup drawer so often mommy thought he'd better be tested?

Mommy also seemed to thing that getting reporters involved was the thing to do. It would be interesting to hear her explain just how having this boy's apparent problem splashed all over newspapers and the internet will help.

It would be real interesting to spend some time with the kid to see if all these apparent traits are real, and whether he gets off script when mom isn't around, It would also be fun to talk with mom to see just how much she's enjoying all this.

75 posted on 07/10/2006 1:14:34 PM PDT by Minn
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To: DumpsterDiver

>>I'm using WebTV so that's not the problem. If you can see the following URLs I guess you could cut & paste them into your browser, right?<<

well, yes, I guess I could....


I am, instead, however, gonna just trust you about the links... :)


76 posted on 07/10/2006 1:20:46 PM PDT by gondramB (The options on the table have been there from the beginning. Withdraw and fail or commit and succeed)
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To: Minn

The question should be, what can be done for him? What can be done to help him figure out why he believes he's a girl and how to change his mis-perception.


77 posted on 07/10/2006 1:21:06 PM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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To: rightinthemiddle
It's not all that outrageous; IIRC, gender differences manifest themselves at a very early age -- and they do 'manifest themselves', they aren't taught to children -- so it's possible the kid simply showed 'girl' right from the start.
78 posted on 07/10/2006 1:23:14 PM PDT by Grut
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To: rightinthemiddle
There use to be a homeless guy in Austin,TX. named Leslie. He stood on street corners wearing a bikini looking for hand-outs. He even ran for mayor a couple of times. I can see a similar future for this kid.
79 posted on 07/10/2006 1:24:26 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Minn
Like I said, "Just wait till puberty and Mr. Woody wakes up."

"Buttt Mommmmm, I don't want to be a girl any more!"

80 posted on 07/10/2006 1:30:40 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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