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For background, I am trained in electrical engineering and do software engineering for a living. And yet I really don't care to keep up with mainboards, processors (which "86" are they on now?) etc. Never was able to get very excited about the IBM-PC or its derivatives.

Your suggestions are appreciated.

1 posted on 06/21/2006 11:08:32 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Let's try that again...

Our household needs a new computer system. Your ideas/suggestions are appreciated!

I realize some of this may not be possible, but here's a list of what we would like:

* This computer should boot quickly, in a matter of a few seconds.
* This machine should not attempt to "help" with everything, or offer "tours"
* This machine should do exactly what I, the user, command it to, immediately, and without trying to help.
* No extras should be loaded.
* The CPU should be able to last for 20 years or longer, and the drives should be redundant (mirrored).
* It should be possible to boot into a bare-bones "DOS" mode, with NO GRAPHICS, no pre-emptive multitasking, etc.
* It should be quiet.
* Nothing besides the bare bones operating environment /operating system should ever be loaded unless I expicitly install it.

Here is what we do NOT like:

* A machine that takes more than 15 seconds to boot (inexcusable with today's hardware).
* Extreme speed i.e. lower CPU lifespan. 1-2GHz should be MORE than sufficient.
* Noise from fans.
* Extreme graphics - no games.
* Extraneous unwanted programs that come with the O/S - bare bones only.
* Commercial/marketing stuff loaded onto the system.
* An operating system that tries to "help" with everything.
* A machine that refuses to turn off instantly but second-guesses user commands. When I say "off" by flicking the power switch, I MEAN NOW, not thirty seconds from now.

Ah, that's better.

2 posted on 06/21/2006 11:11:15 PM PDT by Lexinom
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Given your list, you'll probably be happiest if you write your own operating system.


4 posted on 06/21/2006 11:19:52 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
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To: Lexinom

Sounds like what ever computer you get, you won't be wanting to shut it off when you are done.

That would give you instant access, no waiting with a $300 computer.


8 posted on 06/21/2006 11:23:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Lexinom
Nothing yet.

I Dream of Jennie

Look for bottles on the Beach in Florida.

I read the post again.

Jennie would not qualify as bare dos interface. To visual.
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Any company that made something like that would do well for a while then go out of business
9 posted on 06/21/2006 11:23:19 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Red is good)
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To: Lexinom
The Apple II computer will meet your requirements, except for the redundant drives and MS-DOS mode, although it does have a simple command line mode.

The Apple computer I bought in July 1978 still works, so it is has lasted for nearly 28 years.

18 posted on 06/21/2006 11:42:39 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Lexinom
Here ya go...


22 posted on 06/21/2006 11:59:58 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Lexinom

Except for the 1-2GHz requirement, you are describing a Commodore 64...


29 posted on 06/22/2006 12:13:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Lexinom

Get a computer that puts the hardware and monitor in sleep mode after so many minutes, then leave it on all the time. Zero boot time, and very little power usage. The rest I leave up to others.


41 posted on 06/22/2006 12:51:33 AM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Jesus always reads His knee-mail. (Hall of Fame Hit-N-Run poster))
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I've looked over most of the suggestions posted here in the comments and come to my own conclusion of what you could do.

Buy a Mac with an Intel processor, and install all the OS's you want to try out until you find one you like. Mac OS, Windows, Linux... They all play on the Mac hardware.

Just keep in mind that when you're done playing around and know what OSes you want to keep on the drive, format the the disk and install the OSes you want from scratch. Configure them carefully, and you should be done.

(Investigate Parallels: http://www.parallels.com/en/products/workstation/mac/ )


51 posted on 06/22/2006 3:18:04 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Lexinom
For low-noise components.


52 posted on 06/22/2006 4:43:04 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Lexinom
Check out the Damn Small Machine.
55 posted on 06/22/2006 10:29:48 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I just put together a small box that boots Ubuntu (Linux) server in 33 seconds, from power on to login prompt.

The hardware is from Newegg.com, and includes:

The lifetime of your CPU will depend as much on how well you cool it, as on its speed. For this system, I used the slowest, cheapest Sempron I could find, so the OEM fan that came with it is plenty good enough. The power supply on this system will give out long before the CPU does. If I had a put in a faster CPU, then I would have used an aftermarket CPU Cooler, such as from Thermalright or Zalman.

Whether or not the so called power off button actually turns the power off should be settable in the BIOS.

The Ubuntu server edition really only loads the basic operating system. It doesn't even have a GUI interface to load.

You must have a bit of a strange household, however, to want to use such a system for household use. I built this box to use as a dedicated network router.

56 posted on 06/22/2006 11:57:04 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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Your requirements are possible to meet but it will take some intervention on your part. Out of the box, they are all set up to "help" you.

You will need to change many settings and manually terminate the automatic updating and other "features".
I have done this on many systems and it takes about an hour to do.

63 posted on 06/22/2006 1:29:26 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ( ¸.·´¯) Gone fishin')
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Get Root !

68 posted on 06/22/2006 4:17:12 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Hosea 6:6 I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings)
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Get an old Cray-2.

Or better yet, a C-90.

Stay away from the Control Data Cyber 205, it sucketh.

Or for less intense work, a VAX 11/780.

Cheers!

69 posted on 06/22/2006 7:31:21 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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