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Confederate flags on space station draw ire
MSNBC ^ | 6/13/06 | James Oberg

Posted on 06/14/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

Confederate flags flown aboard the international space station — and seemingly signed by a NASA astronaut — showed up last week on the online auction site eBay.

The original eBay listing indicated that the 4-by-6-inch flags were brought aboard the space station by Russian cosmonaut Salizhan Sharipov in 2004, and an accompanying photo showed a sample flag that seemed to bear Sharipov’s signature as well as that of Leroy Chiao, his NASA colleague on the station. Yet another photo showed several of the rebel flags floating in a space station module.

The item was pulled from the auction on Monday by the seller, Alex Panchenko of USSR-Russian Air-Space Collectibles Inc. in Los Angeles — and on Tuesday, Panchenko told MSNBC.com that he removed the items from sale because he had concluded the flag and the authentication documents were forgeries.

However, Robert Pearlman, editor and founder of CollectSpace, said he believes the flags are authentic.

“The picture taken of the flags aboard the station says a lot,” he said. “It would be difficult to fake, given the style and I couldn't see the motivation to do so.” The “onboard-the-ISS” stamp, added Pearlman, is not known to have been counterfeited anywhere."

The disappearance of the flags followed a round of criticism over the weekend from former space scientist Keith Cowing, publisher of NASA Watch, an independent Web log. He cited the Confederate flags as an example of “bad judgment on the ISS.”

“You'd think that someone on the U.S. side of the ISS program would have expressed some concern about flying a symbol on the ISS that many Americans associate with slavery,” Cowing wrote.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar; confederateflag; dixie; iss; losers; nasa; neoconfederate; pcpatrol; rebs; rednecksinspaaaaaace; slavestates; z
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To: smug
Big difference no one was killed at Sumter during the bombardment, and the property they shot up was their own.

What they shot up was federal property, and if through some miracle nobody had been killed at Pearl Harbor then in your eyes the Japanese attack wouldn't have been much of an issue?

I know you will now say that S.C. deeded over the property, and I'll say as long as they remained faithful to etc, etc,

So show me where that language was included in the legislation deeding the land free and clear to the U.S.

441 posted on 06/16/2006 3:47:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: smug
It was more indefensible than Moultrie. Since I lived their for several years I often looked out across the marsh towards Mount Pleasant S.C. and wondered to myself "why leave here to go there"?

Things were apparently different then. Several books on the Sumter crisis describe conditions as Moultrie as indefensible. Civilian properties had grown on both sides of the fort, and wind had pushed sand dunes up to the top of the walls. There had apparently been cases where cows grazed up the sand dunes and wound up in the fort's parapet.

442 posted on 06/16/2006 3:56:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: CurlyBill

If you are going to defend the confederate flag from the Democrats why is it that you feel the need to constantly defend the Democrats?

simple logic 101 you don't defend what you hold dear by defending those that are attcking it.

Unless yUO tYPe liKe tHIs oF coURsE

free morons:
CHeAP#


443 posted on 06/16/2006 4:43:02 AM PDT by usmcobra (A single rogue Marine, yeah that can happen, but a whole Unit, only a liberal would believe that BS)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Moultrie is STILL that way today.
One look will tell you why Anderson chose to move.


444 posted on 06/16/2006 5:05:54 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: Mr. Silverback

> Comparison between those two flags is without exception the blather of PC morons.

Read the thread. You'll see the exception.


445 posted on 06/16/2006 5:49:48 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: gcruse
They'll never make me ashamed of Dixie. There aren't enough Yankees on the planet for that.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not only aren't there enough Yankees, but many Yankees feel the same way you do, pahdner!

I am pleased that the Confederate Flag was aboard!

I live in Vermont and have the rebel flag prominantly displayed!

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446 posted on 06/16/2006 7:10:33 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: orionblamblam
What a polemic! DO you feel better now that you are hopefully over your hissy fit?

Yes there were bad things in confederate culture, but also there were many good things: tenacity, loyalty, chivalry, respect for the enemy, innovation in strategy, I could go on. Without the south our military would not be what it is today, full of many highly dedicated and loyal southerners.

Maybe you might consider having an enema to clear your mind so you might think more like a conservative instead of like a knee jerk liberal.

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447 posted on 06/16/2006 7:16:53 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Doe Eyes

"The Rebel flag uproar is so much hot air.
Some Texans complain about people parading around with a Mexican Flag. Its as legitimate here, as the Rebel flag."

Texas fought for the Confederacy. I may be incorrect, but I don't remember anything in my Texas history about Texas fighting FOR Mexico.


448 posted on 06/16/2006 7:24:42 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Eagle9
I have to admit that the visual of the rebel flags floating around left me with a strange grin on my face also. What it must be like to go through life worrying about such silly inane issues.
449 posted on 06/16/2006 7:34:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Senators, what have you done with those Conservatives we sent to Congress? (CyberAnt Inspired))
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To: CurlyBill
EXACTLY!

free dixie,sw

450 posted on 06/16/2006 7:46:04 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
what sherman deserved was a rope. nothing more;nothing less.

free dixie,sw

451 posted on 06/16/2006 7:48:20 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback
and you would be WRONG!

those VALIANT IL farm boys died well in a POOR cause. (for what its worth, i frequently decorate one of the union graves at Arlington National cemetery with flowers. the FACT that he died for the WRONG side does NOT diminish his personal bravery/honor or my pride in his service and/or that he was an AmerIndian warrior.)

free dixie,sw

452 posted on 06/16/2006 7:55:35 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mr. Silverback
NOT by Citadel cadets in Charleston, SC but by the DAMNyankee renegades in MO & Bleeding Kansas.

free dixie,sw

453 posted on 06/16/2006 7:57:18 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
well he certainly controlled his alcoholism by staying drunk most of his adult life.

LOL at you.

free dixie,sw

454 posted on 06/16/2006 7:58:48 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
once more, SMART FReepers are lol AT you, scalawag.

don't you care that most folks here think that you are as clueless as "m.eSPINola"???

free dixie,sw

455 posted on 06/16/2006 8:01:08 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: antisocial
actually many Texans did fight for Mexico.

one (born on Gonzales) was the commanding general of the Mexican forces that whipped Maximilian's Frenchmen. that's why many Texans celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

free dixie,sw

456 posted on 06/16/2006 8:04:47 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Several books on the Sumter crisis describe conditions as Moultrie as indefensible.

The fort itself is as you described (minus the cows). If as some of the reports had it that no southern troops were on Sullivan's, it is my contention that the whole island could have been defended (longer). Federal ships could have used the island as a screen to reinforce and assist. The southern patriot's would then have been more limited in their attack.
457 posted on 06/16/2006 8:11:06 AM PDT by smug (Tanstaafl)
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To: x
don't you just hate it, when southerners point out that "dishonest abe" the "clay-footed, secular saint of DAMNyankeeland" was a RACIST of the first rank??? and that he hated & feared "persons of colour", Jews & Catholics????

lol AT you and the other blind fools, who worship daily at the tyrant's feet.

free dixie,sw

458 posted on 06/16/2006 8:12:26 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: smug
If as some of the reports had it that no southern troops were on Sullivan's, it is my contention that the whole island could have been defended (longer).

Anderson's threat was from the local miltia. Where there were South Carolina civilians, there were South Carolina troops. Local loyalists had informed Anderson of the threats, the verbal instructions from Major Buell gave him the OK he needed, Sumter was the only likely place for a protracted defense.

459 posted on 06/16/2006 8:34:38 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
well he certainly controlled his alcoholism by staying drunk most of his adult life.

So your position is that drunken sot beat every southern general sent against him? Doesn't say much for your rebel leadership then does it?

460 posted on 06/16/2006 8:35:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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