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Old Times Here Are Apparently Forgotten
Cornell American ^ | May 31st, 2006 | Vanessa Durante

Posted on 06/01/2006 9:07:55 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

Last month, Ithaca High School administrators sent a letter home with students, informing their parents that the flag of the Confederacy had been banned. Ithaca High School students can no longer display the emblem on belt buckles, t-shirts, or anywhere else while on school property. Apparently, the students wearing their Dixie Outfitters t-shirts, in a proud nod to our country’s better half, were white. It is unfortunate that civil liberties apply only to those in privileged groups, such as blacks or Hispanics.

Because the United States Supreme Court has ruled in favor of protecting the freedom of speech exercised in displaying the stars and bars, Ithaca High School had to claim that the flag was creating some sort of disruption in the school that hindered the educational process. No specific instances were mentioned in the administration’s letter.

I found the claim interesting, though, because, were it true, it would clearly indicate that racism is much more of a problem in Upstate New York than in my hometown in Southern Virginia. To think that racial hatred could be stirred up by a high school student’s belt buckle is frightening, indeed. The school’s objection to the battle flag is even more astonishing considering the fact that only 6.7% of the population of Ithaca is black. But apparently the race wars here are far more intense than in my hometown, of which 13.34% of the population was black. And yet, in my public high school, where displays of the confederate flag were common on car bumpers, t-shirts, or belt buckles, and where a significant minority of the student body was black, and even in a state that historically had supported slavery, the flag was never accused of disturbing a classroom, much less of inciting racial hatred.

Ithaca’s black population is proportionately only slightly more than half that of the United States. This is an unusually white city. And apparently race relations here are in such tension that they can be upset by a kid’s t-shirt. Schools in the South, much less segregated, are clearly more at ease and have put issues of racism farther behind them;thus, students there can better appreciate the historic and cultural value of the Confederate flag. It leads one to wonder on which side of the Mason-Dixon Line racism is still prevalent today.

The Confederate flag is not—and was never—a representation of the institution of slavery. The North, in an attempt to glorify its states’ fight to suppress the South’s effort to free themselves from the North’s exploitation, has oversimplified and at times even falsified history by painting the War of Northern Aggression as a war fought over issues of morality. Children in Northern schools are never made aware that there were no more abolitionists in the North than in the South.They are never taught that the North never claimed to want to abolish slavery but merely to stop its expansion to ensure that the free states would not be outnumbered in Congress. Many Northerners do no even know that the majority of Southerners who fought and died in the Civil War did not even own slaves.

In accordance with their favored depiction of the Civil War as a moral battle in which they fought for good while the South defended evil, the North has emphasized the issue of slavery while allowing the issues of representation in national politics, economics, and regional identities which primarily caused the war to recede into the background. Erased from history are the values of self-government, freedom, and honor that led Confederates to fight to preserve their home. This is what the Confederate flag represents, and this is why it is still of the utmost importance to Southerners today. It is why black Southerners will proudly call themselves Southern and will fly the Confederate flag. The South is, above all, a cultural entity. Southerners have a dramatically different culture from Northerners; this culture of chivalry, modesty, graciousness, and hospitality is represented by the stars and bars, and it must be remembered and preserved.

If the Confederate flag has in fact caused the feelings of ill will in Ithaca High School that the administration claims, the blame must fall on the administration itself. No Southerner would be so naive as to equate the Confederate flag with support of slavery. It is a failure of Yankee schools that children are not taught the broad scope of economic, political, and even cultural factors which led to the Civil War but are only presented with a gross caricature of a war between good and evil.

Even more frightening than this restriction of freedom of speech in Ithaca High School is what has caused this common misunderstanding of the Confederate flag. In perpetuating their myth of the North as the force of good in the Civil War, the North has revised history in a way that should frighten all Americans. An emblem of a group of people’s heritage and culture has been banned because others have formed prejudices and misconceptions about it. Moreover, these prejudices and misconceptions are fueled by the public school system itself. By banning the Confederate flag, the state attempts to erase from memory the Civil War. To forget that Americans in the past were capable of such atrocities as slavery robs us of the lesson that can be learned and leaves us dangerously vulnerable to repeating past mistakes.

If the Confederate flag calls to mind slavery, and schools wish to erase from common memory all remnants of this dark period in American history, why stop at the flag? Perhaps next, Ithaca parents will receive letters requesting that their children be sent to school clothed in only synthetic fabrics because cotton was once produced through the slave labor of blacks. Or, in order to really be free of uncomfortable memories of our national history, maybe Ithaca High School will ban all black students from school property.


TOPICS: History
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin

Instead of banning the Confederate Battle Flag , and it's uses in modern fashion , at places like Ithaca High School , they should require ALL the students to watch the program being shown by The History Channel " 80 Acres of Hell" .
This is about the Union prison Camp Douglas and what went on there in the name of the glorious Union...


121 posted on 06/04/2006 1:03:44 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: BruceysMom
It was Black people that rounded up other black people and sent them into slavery. It still happens today.

That is true, but it doesn't change the fact that the Confederacy was built on the wicked institution of slavery and the best thing that could have happened to America was the destruction of the CSA.

If Blacks in America are still so scarred over slavery then why do they take muslim names, the religion of "fellow blacks" that sold them and yet bristle at a Confederate flag?

Why should any Confederate lover complain about blacks being scarred over slavery when so many reb fans seem scarred that the Union defeated and disgraced the rebellion 140+ years ago?

You sound like you're condemning all black people for the errors of a few. That's like some black guy imputing the KKK mindset to all white people.

122 posted on 06/04/2006 1:11:50 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: LeoWindhorse
Instead of banning the Confederate Battle Flag , and it's uses in modern fashion , at places like Ithaca High School , they should require ALL the students to watch the program being shown by The History Channel " 80 Acres of Hell" . This is about the Union prison Camp Douglas and what went on there in the name of the glorious Union...

I think all students should be required to read History of the Rebellion in Bradley County, East Tennessee written by J. S. Hurlburt in 1866 and learn about the reign of terror instituted by Confederate thug officials against the Union people of that area in the name of the glorious freedom loving slave owners.

123 posted on 06/04/2006 1:17:01 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colt .45
The slave owners confused their narrow interests with the interests of the "South". So what if the slaveoners had a minority representation-they were a minority.

And about Nat Turner's rebellion-what did they expect? They themselves would rebel in 1860 because they didn't like the results of an election. The spoiled Dixie elite never could find it in their hearts to be generous and hold others to the low standards they maintained for themselves.

124 posted on 06/04/2006 1:24:03 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: stainlessbanner

Good article. Thanks for posting.


125 posted on 06/04/2006 1:25:12 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: LeoWindhorse

Aloha, and howdy, howdy, howdy. Anyway, yeah. It would at least be much more constructive and informative. Give the kids something to consider. I haven't seen this particular show, but we hear popular culture flappin' their jaws about the sins of, Andersonville, and when it comes time to present the Union atrocities it's just given a glossing over with, "Oh, war is hell, don't ya know. Both sides did bad things." Yeah, but the Union did far worse. But they don't ever utter those facts because that would pop the horrendously fat bubble of the North's continuing control over the South...


126 posted on 06/04/2006 7:40:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: LeoWindhorse
This is about the Union prison Camp Douglas and what went on there in the name of the glorious Union...

Are you suggesting some fiction that southern prison camps were better run or more humane than northern ones?

127 posted on 06/04/2006 7:41:38 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

You sound like you're condemning all black people for the errors of a few. That's like some black guy imputing the KKK mindset to all white people.

And you sound like you're excusing the "victim" mentality that traps many Blacks in poverty.


128 posted on 06/04/2006 12:22:45 PM PDT by BruceysMom (.I'm hot & not in a good way, menopause ain't for sissies.)
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To: mac_truck
"Are you suggesting some fiction that southern prison camps were better run or more humane than northern ones?"

No sir , all were surely hell holes , as none were prepared for what happened , and yet this fact remains : due to conditions in the South ,even the guards had very little food to eat , about on a par with the prisoners they were charged with to oversee. Yet in the north ,and at Camp Douglas in particular , the Yankee's intentionally withheld food and medical services from the prisoners out of shear vindictive
spite . They staff and guards at these prisons had plenty to eat and they went further even to stop the concerned (northern) citizens from aiding in any way the incarcerate
southerners. It was a vast war crime , with clear intent ,
and fully covered up by the history ,written by the 'victors' ever since. They hung Col. Wirtz of Andersonville
but they promoted Col Sweet of Camp Douglas to General.
Sweet had tortured , and summarily executed those under his charge , especially any Negros that came in with the CSA gents. See the program sir....
129 posted on 06/04/2006 12:35:00 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: BruceysMom
And you sound like you're excusing the "victim" mentality that traps many Blacks in poverty.

I don't see how somebody would think I'm excusing anything just because I object to the broad brush. There's whining victims among all groups, but it seems that some people are a lot more sensitive when it's the other group's failing and a lot more forgiving when the "victims" are their own color. I've got no use for whining blacks just as much as I've got no use for whining whites. But my problem is with the whining, not what the color the whiner is.

By the way, the greatest whining victims in American history were the crybaby slaveowners who thought the whole nation should be subordinated to their desire to own other men.

130 posted on 06/04/2006 2:18:47 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: LeoWindhorse
or the should be taken on a field trip to Point Lookout DEATH CAMP, the DAMNyankee hellhole in southern MD, where at least 15,000 helpless CSA POWs were slaughtered like cattle,just because it was cheaper to kill them than to feed/clothe them.

free dixie,sw

131 posted on 06/04/2006 2:58:57 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
what an UTTERLY ignorant, fact-FREE, silly & simplistic post!

are you trying to replace "Mr SPIN" as the "class clown" & DUMB-bunny in chief????

free dixie,sw

132 posted on 06/04/2006 3:02:31 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
the DIFFERENCE in Andersonville & the DAMNyankee HELLholes like Elmira, Camp Douglas & Point Lookout is that at the DAMNyankee camps the CRUELTY, intentional starvation of, the denial of clothing/shelter/medical care to and the TENS of THOUSANDS of MURDERS of the CSA POWs was PLANNED as a PREMEDITATED ACT.

at Andersonville the privation/death/disease was caused by NOTHING to give to the Union POWS (numerous GUARDS died of starvation & exposure at Camp Sumter). lincoln, the TYRANT, twice refused an offer to repatriate the Union POWs to "friendly lines".

in both cases, it was a matter of INTENT.

free dixie,sw

133 posted on 06/04/2006 3:09:37 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: mac_truck
read # 133 for the CORRECT answer. warning: you will NOT like the TRUTH about the "wunnerful, wunnerful DYs".

free dixie,sw

134 posted on 06/04/2006 3:11:41 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie
if they knew what was awaiting them , I think not a man in the CSA would have ever surrendered. Half the time it was their officers without the guts to keep in the fight anyway. If only they knew , they would have fought on to the man . Should have . No surrenders!
Former General Robert E. Lee is quoted as saying (in private)
at a gathering in 1870 " If I had foreseen the use 'those people' designed to make of their victory ,there would have been no surrender at Appomattox Courthouse! No sir , not by me! Had I foreseen these results of subjugation ,I would have preferred to die at Appomattox ,with my brave men , my sword in this right hand"
Even today , even here , the perfidy goes on.
135 posted on 06/04/2006 4:10:12 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: stainlessbanner

What a surprise to see my article on here! I was so happy to read all the comments posted here from so many Southerners. It's great to be reminded that there are normal (i.e. conservative!) people out there in the world--being up in Itahca I sometimes forget that we are the MAJORITY! Thanks for reading, y'all!

Deo vindice!
Vanessa Durante


136 posted on 06/04/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by vdd2
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Oh yeah, you're right, they seceded so the "whole nation" had to be slave owners. I'm done with you on this subject. As a Jew I've dealt with slavery a long time. You don't see Jews whining and failing because some ancestor was a slave.
137 posted on 06/04/2006 4:47:02 PM PDT by BruceysMom (.I'm hot & not in a good way, menopause ain't for sissies.)
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To: stand watie

Well, it's good to know and I believe that rather easily. Especially after reading that one of his own Generals had a plan to end the war, quickly, and Lincoln would not hear of it. He told McClellan, "I want to bring the South to its knees". He fell right off the pedestal with a loud thud, and stopped being my friend at that point...


138 posted on 06/04/2006 7:24:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: vdd2

Welcome to FR vdd2 - excellent article. Thanks for writing in - you have the support of many conservatives 'round here. Best of luck in your studies my friend.


139 posted on 06/04/2006 7:26:19 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: vdd2

" It is why black Southerners will proudly call themselves Southern and will fly the Confederate flag. The South is, above all, a cultural entity."

Mr. H.K.Edgerton is the perfect living example of this
modern day honorable pride .

Deo Vindice !


140 posted on 06/04/2006 9:40:52 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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