Posted on 05/25/2006 5:04:51 AM PDT by abb
DURHAM -- A lawyer with the state NAACP said the civil rights organization intends to seek a gag order in the Duke lacrosse case, and a journalist who participated in a forum with him on Wednesday said media coverage of the alleged rape may deprive the alleged victim of her legal rights to a fair trial.
Al McSurely, an attorney who chairs the Legal Redress Committee for the state National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said he generally respects the defense attorneys in the case as colleagues. But they are violating the State Bar's rules of professional conduct that discourage comments outside court that are likely to prejudice a case, he said.
The NAACP will try to intervene in the case to file a "quiet zone/let's let justice work" motion. That is otherwise known as a gag order, he acknowledged, although he said he doesn't like that term.
McSurely's comments came amid the first-ever Durham Conference on the Moral Challenges of our Culture at First Presbyterian Church downtown. The session gave the approximately 150 people who attended a chance to hear a series of talks and discuss among themselves sexual and domestic violence, racism, class distinctions and the media.
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I think the documents say she wasn't asked until after the 1st results came back. Nifong wouldn't have been so sure about the DNA if CGM had told the SANE she had unprotected sex with 3 guys. After the 1st DNA results came back is when Nifong clammed up for a while.
So, I think we can add lying to the SANE / DA to the list of things CGM has done.
How many times has Crystal been picked up and let go when she cried and said that a "boyfriend" beat her up? How many cops are hiding their heads right now?
She is what she is and it's a risky business to say the least.
That's what I thought.
It will not be useless if it documents her lies or at least her proclivity to lie.
I don't think the SBI would've missed a vaginal swab containing semen, which is what the defense described at their presser after the second results came in.
I think the SBI report given to the defense on April 10 omitted the semen results, because no player was found to be the donor. The lab or perhaps Nifong made a decision that the players had no right to know about findings other than their own.
Either someone gave her up as part of a deal or they matched it with a particular data base. Don't forget, the cops, especially detectives working on a case are also usually added to the DNA data base as a filter for contamination.
Just tossing it around!!
I vote for hiding under the desk, stealing the judge's car and running over the court officer.
And she'll spend two weekends in jail for it.
Cheshire described the DNA on the vaginal swab as "belonging to a single male source".
The nail, containing DNA from which Evans could not be excluded. was described by Cheshire as also having DNA of others (not necessarily players), but not Seligmann or Finnerty.
Part of a SANE nurse's job is "compassion" just like any other nurse. Unfortunately, compassion can make us gullible. Happens every day and you don't have to be a SANE nurse to fall into the trap.
I'm going to post my comment, then read the thread.
I am not surprised that lawyers for the NAACP don't understand the concept of STANDING!!
Why don't they just wear clown suits and arrive 9 in a little car?
Close, but I think everyone is missing the boat on the SANE nurse's role here, it is compassion, yes, but it is more that that - it almost moves to the "advocacy" position. I have done some crisis work, and at that stage our job is not to judge the veracity of the complaints or to try to get to the bottom of the present situation, our job is to more like being an advocate.
It is not the SANE's nurse to judge guilt or innocence, or come to a conclusion. It is her job to treat the victim, make observations and collect evidence. If a SANE nurse decided she had to figure out the guilt or innocence of any party, or whether the client was lying, nothing would ever get done.
As such, I think the SANE nurse did exactly what her job was. The finding "consistent with" was exactly the right finding. That has a specific legal meaning, it is the media that has twisted that fact into the lie that it mean "the evidence shows".
BTW I think the boys are innocent.
Because they can swim around for some time if you know what I mean.
OK, I've read the thread now.
A party must have legal standing to enter a case, unless the court grants them permission to enter the case. Anyone can TRY to intervene, but their attempt at intervention will be quickly dismissed if they lack STANDING to be a party.
NAACP lacks STANDING to be a party in this case. There is no basis for their involvement. This is nothing but grandstanding, an attempt to shut down all the bad TRUTH coming out.
I was about 35 at the time with three kids.
There is a difference between "finding no match" and "finding nothing" in her.
I bet they found a LOT but they didn't and maybe still don't know who it matched. Maybe that's why they want the gag order for fear that it might 'leak out' that they found 10 different sources in her.
Listen carefully to their reports. They talk about matches, not how many different sources.
I had a tubal pregnacy 2 years after having my tubes tied.
The doctor came in later and said I had developed fistulas (little tunnels)
I immediately thought of those determnined little sperms hard hats on, picks in hand singing "Working in an egg mine, going down, down, down.."
Good morning. Thanks for the ping!
Do we know they took samples from the "drivers"? I hadn't heard that..
2) if so whether there was a match to the drivers
If they did sample the "drivers" and the defense announced that they found a match to a "single male source" then that tells me that there was not a match on the "drivers". If there was no match to the "drivers" and there is more DNA than just the BF's match.... Then she must have lied about only 3 that could have made the deposit...
Does that sound right?
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