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The Duke Case's Cruel Truth: Hateful Stereotypes of Black Women Resurface (Major Barf alert)
The Washington Post ^ | May 24, 2006 | Lynne Duke

Posted on 05/24/2006 1:14:22 PM PDT by RecallMoran

She was black, they were white, and race and sex were in the air.

But whatever actually happened that March 13 night at Duke University -- both the reported rape and its surrounding details are hotly disputed -- it appears at least that the disturbing historic script of the sexual abuse of black women was playing out inside that lacrosse party.

Two black women performed an exotic dance. The white men in their audience shouted racial epithets, one of the women has said. Things got rough. Someone in the crowd held a broomstick aloft and shouted "I'm gonna shove this up you," the other woman told police when she reported being raped. As the women fled the house, a neighbor reportedly heard one of the men shout: "Hey bitch, thank your grandpa for my nice cotton shirt."

The mainstream media have largely tiptoed around the brutal truth that has been discussed among black women in private conversations, in the blogosphere and on college campuses. It is that the Duke case is in some ways reminiscent of a black woman's vulnerability to a white man during the days of slavery, reconstruction and Jim Crow, when sex was used as a tool of racial domination.

It was the kind of predatory behavior that found its way into modern culture in the old Rolling Stones song, "Brown Sugar." And the stereotype of black women as highly sexed, like the lascivious Jezebel from slavery days. "I think there's a tendency to downgrade black women and to discount the fact that, no matter what they are there to do, they are not just animals to be used," says Dorothy Height, 94, president emeritus of the National Council of Negro Women.

"Whatever she did, she was not there as a prostitute," Height says in her defense.

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To: David Allen

Good point. I'm going out on a limb here...but I used to "go-go dance" when I was in college (not my finest hour, but I needed the money and did not use the best judgment). This was in the early 80's. There was a big difference between those of us who "danced", and those girls who "did parties". And I have to tell you, there was a big difference in the types of places we would work, and the types of girls who would work them. The go-go bars that I worked at were in white neighborhoods, and most of us were white. We wore bikini type tops, in fact pasties were illegal and you would get fired from the agency for wearing anything close to them. I had an agent, and he had to send most of the black dancers to black bars, because the bar owners just did not want the black dancers, because the white men preferred white dancers. But even among the girls who "did parties" there was a heirarchy. The lowest of the low were girls who worked at parties without their own bouncers. It was just insane for any girl who knew that environment to consider it.


141 posted on 05/25/2006 12:37:46 PM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: Peach

142 posted on 05/25/2006 3:26:52 PM PDT by SwampFoxSC
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

see #72 for your records


143 posted on 05/25/2006 8:26:41 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

oops... i mean #142


144 posted on 05/25/2006 8:27:43 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: P-40

I was kind of surprised the song "Some Girls" didn't get mentioned. It has a pretty negative view of black women and sex.


145 posted on 05/25/2006 8:42:21 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: darbymcgill

I'm looking around the genealogy sites I have bookmarked.
I have to pat myself on the back...I had guessed Lyons was a connected surname-wasn't quite sure how it connected.

I think I will be a detective in my next life, LOL!


146 posted on 05/25/2006 9:12:29 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

uv got mail


147 posted on 05/25/2006 9:16:39 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Mr. Blonde
It has a pretty negative view of black women and sex.

Or most any rap song too from what I have heard. :)
148 posted on 05/26/2006 5:36:51 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: RecallMoran
"It is that the Duke case is in some ways reminiscent of a black woman's vulnerability to a white man during the days of slavery, reconstruction and Jim Crow, when sex was used as a tool of racial domination."

What a bunch of horse manure. The exploitation that was slavery has nothing to do with a contemporary black woman deciding to strip for groups of men and prostitute herself. Nobody forced her into that life. She made the choice to sell her body. This leftist hack cheapens the memory of US slaves. ""Whatever else happened, this woman has been violated somehow," Malveaux says. "Is there no sympathy?"" There was tons of it until more details began to emerge. I even thought it sounded at first like something had happened. But her story is almost implausible now. No DNA evidence. Her story changing. The whole mustache flap. The whole thing about one of the accused having a rock solid alibi. "Even Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was pounded by this wave of abuse when another radio host, David Lenihan, called her a "coon." (He later reportedly explained he was discussing her prospects at the NFL and ran the words together when he tried to say "coup" and "NFL." It came out as "coon." Twice. The fallout cost him his job.)" One jerk saying a stupid thing does not prove anything. We are a country of 300 million. Plenty of jerks say plenty of stupid things every year.
149 posted on 05/26/2006 5:46:13 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

Some how the paragraphs didn't go through. Lets try again.


What a bunch of horse manure. The exploitation that was slavery has nothing to do with a contemporary black woman deciding to strip for groups of men and prostitute herself. Nobody forced her into that life. She made the choice to sell her body. This leftist hack cheapens the memory of US slaves. ""Whatever else happened, this woman has been violated somehow," Malveaux says.

"Is there no sympathy?""

There was tons of it until more details began to emerge. I even thought it sounded at first like something had happened. But her story is almost implausible now. No DNA evidence. Her story changing. The whole mustache flap. The whole thing about one of the accused having a rock solid alibi.

"Even Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was pounded by this wave of abuse when another radio host, David Lenihan, called her a "coon." (He later reportedly explained he was discussing her prospects at the NFL and ran the words together when he tried to say "coup" and "NFL." It came out as "coon." Twice. The fallout cost him his job.)"

One jerk saying a stupid thing does not prove anything. We are a country of 300 million. Plenty of jerks say plenty of stupid things every year.


150 posted on 05/26/2006 5:47:21 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: RecallMoran

"Though the woman in the Duke case is a psychology major at North Carolina Central University, a Navy veteran and a mother of two, t"

An unmarried mother of two who is stripping and hooking. Nice details to leave out. Were I a black woman i'd be insulted that this woman was being made out to be representative of me.


151 posted on 05/26/2006 5:48:10 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: RecallMoran

"At a news conference given by one of the defendant's attorneys in Durham, community activist Victoria Peterson raised a question she has heard privately: Did the partyers specifically request black dancers that night? Peterson's question was ignored.

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"White men have always been fascinated with black women over the years. That's nothing new," says Peterson, who launched Durham Citizens Against Rape and Sexual Abuse in response to this case. With outlets such as BET and others portraying African American women as highly sexed, "young white boys, they want to touch, they want to see," Peterson says."

Horse manure.


152 posted on 05/26/2006 5:50:02 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: L98Fiero

hat said, there is no evidence of "historical sexual abuse" of black women by white as the author infers.

With all these light-skinned black folks walking around, that statement can't be accurate.


153 posted on 05/27/2006 3:13:34 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Black, Proud, Conservative!)
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To: brwnsuga
With all these light-skinned black folks walking around, that statement can't be accurate.

I guess it's no coincidence that's the same propaganda spewed during the Tawanna Brawley fiasco...

What a huge, bigoted lie... To say that the only reason there are light skinned black folks is due to white men raping black women is a flat out bigoted, hateful, lie...

What a complete idiot....

154 posted on 05/27/2006 7:17:58 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: Locomotive Breath
Among my eclectic and constant reading habits, I've always read the newer fictions authored by black authors and authoresses. Some of them are fine reading; and always instructive. This issue about the sisters and wishing their "men" would be more responsible had been a constant in these books. I detected a change in the very late 90s/early 2000s -- almost as though they'd all been given their marching orders. Jerome Dickey, for example, had authored some very sensible books (surrounding the "race" issue) which were about peace and accord. He's back on the "black be the thang" -- dittos, the others.

It was so darned startling to me -- all these different authors and authoresses whose books I'd been reading all these years -- came out, in total, with a "be black here now" agenda in their latest books. And as though someone had told them all they'd better get back on the "plantation" or lose their careers.

Their latest books are too boring to read!

155 posted on 05/31/2006 5:08:21 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
Interesting that you should post that at this time on a week-old thread. I was just reading this

To Understand Africa, Understand Its Culture

Hat tip: Dean Esmay
156 posted on 05/31/2006 7:44:48 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: darbymcgill

If black slaves (black mind you) came from Africa. How do you think their skins got lighter and lighter? Gene mutations? If a slave had sexual relations with her owner what are the chances she was doing this voluntarily? It was either rape or coersion and perhaps , in rare cases, mutual affection. But mostly rape. Call me an idiot if you want to but 1 + 1= 2 in every math book I've ever seen.


157 posted on 05/31/2006 12:41:50 PM PDT by brwnsuga (Black, Proud, Conservative!)
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To: brwnsuga

Slavery ended 7 generations ago and many slaves were free long before that. Light skinned blacks are more likely to have been a result of intermarriage or interbreeding. Given the numbers of light blacks it appears there has been a fair amount of attraction between the races.


158 posted on 05/31/2006 1:03:30 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: brwnsuga
That said, there is no evidence of "historical sexual abuse" of black women by white as the author infers.

In reply of the above statement you wrote this

With all these light-skinned black folks walking around, that statement can't be accurate.

You have not one iota of evidence that a single light-skinned black folk walking around is a by product of anything other than a mutual relationship between a black man and a non-black woman or a black woman and a non-black man.

For you to say all light-skinned folk walking around today are a result of white slave owners raping their black slaves is not only bigoted, ignorance, it's race baiting... It is not supported by the facts... and it's an insult to all of the children of loving interracial couples... Let's try Haley Berry for starters shall we?

I don't know where you learned math but most of us have learned there are more ways than 1 + 1 to arrive at 2... in order to arrive at alternative solutions, you must first learn to think a bit more independently... and get outside of your tunnel...

your tripe is old, come up with something more original and relevant... don't just repeat the tired old talking points that your handlers spew...

159 posted on 05/31/2006 1:13:27 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: brwnsuga
If black slaves (black mind you) came from Africa.

Another ignorant statement.... Are we to assume that every black person in the US today, light or dark is a direct descendant of slaves owned by early Americans?

Never mind... I now know I'm wasting my bandwidth...

160 posted on 05/31/2006 1:40:56 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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