Posted on 05/24/2006 8:42:10 AM PDT by rawhide
Cecil Wallace awoke about 4:30 a.m. Saturday to the bawling of cows and the howling of dogs. The Buford farmer grabbed his shotgun and went running out the back door.
His son and next-door neighbor, Kenneth Wallace, also jarred awake — also carrying a shotgun — joined him. Father and son ran toward the pasture...
...Reaching the pasture, the Wallaces saw a cow, bloodied and torn, its calf standing nearby. As they approached the animal, according to reports, two dogs came running towards them.
Kenneth Wallace raised his 12-gauge. Boom! The larger dog hit the dirt, howling. Wallace fired again, and the dog was quiet.
The female kept coming. Kenneth Wallace fired a third time, the blast echoing along the darkened reaches of Bart Johnson Road.
The Wallaces dragged the dogs' bodies aside and tended to the cow, Betsy. She looked bad — right ear torn off, the left shredded like paper. Her nose was ripped and torn. Two teeth were knocked loose. Not long after daybreak, Cecil Wallace took Betsy to a Cumming veterinarian, who prescribed painkillers and antibiotics for the Angus/Hereford cross.
"She's still in bad shape," Cecil Wallace, 73, said Tuesday. "She tries to eat, but she can't; her mouth's too sore."
Animal control officers have cited one dog owner with failing to have the animal on a leash.. They also charged the owner with violating the county's vicious-animal ordinance, which requires owners of a dangerous dog or cat to have it muzzled whenever the animal is off the owner's property.
Meghan Martin, who lives near the Wallaces, said she is the owner whom officers cited...p>
When I went to sleep, my dog was in bed with me," she said. A roommate let out her dog, plus a friend's pit bull, Martin said...
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Your words have already been debated and debunked numerous times here.
I asked it before on this thread, and I will ask you now. Following your logic, what is your annual donation to the Brady Group, Rebecca Peters, and all the other anti-gun types?
All done in the name of 'public safety'.
There was a similar case here recently. It arose out of a neighbourhood dispute. The "dangerous dog" was a tiny little thing that was absolutely harmless. Fortunately the media showed how ridiculous the whole episode was. Some people just hate dogs and want all dogs banned.
But in a socialist world some people are more equal than others. Those holding power are invariably much better off than the masses. To the seekers of power, socialism is a valuable tool with which to exploit the vulnerable.
LOL, thats not what all those wearing Che T-shirts keep telling me! I thought it was a beautiful thing, where everyone was equal? /dripping sarcasm
You know that someone has gone around the bend when they refer to dogs as "evil".
Again, if you call changing the subject legitimate debate, then you belong over at DU and not on FR.
If you want to talk about guns, I am sure there is a thread for that. In this thread, however, we are talking about pitbulls.
While I've seen bears many times there have been only two times that have concerned me.
Once, three Springs ago the dog and I were walking a trail in the same park as above when,
not 12 feet in front of us, a bear came barreling out of the brush onto the trail
and high-tailed it down the path, thankfully away from us.
While I was caught a bit flat-footed, my dog's instincts kicked in and he started to give chase.
With some anxiety I gave the command to halt and was pleased when he obeyed.
Since then I've been more aware of the need to make enough noise to warn of our approach.
I've taken to shouting out, "NO BEARS ALLOWED" at regular intervals. ;~)
The second occurrence while not directly affecting me made me realize the seriousness of the potential danger.
Last August I had spent 2 weeks of remote travel in the Missinaibi Lake area of northern Ontario.
After a week of my return home a report came through of a woman being killed by a bear in a location I had passed through on my journey...link
The woman's husband had frantically tried to fight off the bear with a Swiss Army knife.
While a predatory bear is a rarity, this event convinced me to be better prepared.
While a gun is not an option at this point,
(and in the area mentioned not allowed, being part of the Chapleau Game Preserve)
I'm not going to be left with a Swiss Army knife as a means of defense.
I was considering an 8" but settled for this 6" Buck knife,
made in the good ol' U.S. of A.
That would be my final line of defense,
may not save me but I'd like to put some hurt on him as I go down.
Probably never need it but I'd sure feel foolish if I did and didn't have it.
My first defense, hopefully only for nuisance bears, is a compressed air horn,
followed by bear-bangers and pepper spray.
The dog may help as a deterrent as well.
" ... where's the justification/rationale for the negative impact of your draconian "final solution" on hundreds of thousands of law-abiding, conscientious dog-owners ???"
I did answer your question. Allow me to answer it again.
I don't need anymore justification that this. And as is my right and the American way, I will continue to lobby our elected representatives to ban all pitbulls in residential neighborhoods.
Let's not play loose with the fact. No one said dogs were evil. They did say Pitbulls are evil. Perhaps still a wee bit over the top, but they are very bad dogs.
Good luck with the drongo.
When you get into the deep wilderness, bears can spell trouble, and its good to be prepared. One is usually not much of a problem but if two or three of them get onto your camp/food scent, they will hound you mercilessly.This problem is compounded by some campers who feed bears, so they learn to hang out waiting for canoists. I favor this hollow handled knife , simply because it can easily be made into a spear from any straight sappling, and it offers formidable protection against a bear.
Two men each with a spear could easily kill a bear, well not easily, it would be work. I usually make my spear the first day out and it doubles as a canoe pole and hiking staff.Two are better than one.I try to make it 6 to 7 feet long. I keep it handy at night by thrusting the butt end of the spear into the ground outside my tent door. The blade comes with a cordura sheath and doubles as a knife until you make a spear of it. Costs about 20 bucks, and is available from many suppliers, I use SMKW , Smokey Mountain knife works. This knife could save your life, it is called the " Cold Steel Bushman", 12-1/4 inches overall, with a seven inch razor sharp blade: 
But why do so many thousands of people, including Indians and Eskimos cultivate and use huskies in their daily lives. Why don't these northerners ban their dogs . Becuase when one goes wild they realize that it is not generallly the dogs fault, but the owners.
Take your single incident driven mentality with which you would end the good ownership of dogs by good handlers, by far the majority,and take it on over to MOVE ON.ORG. Such thinking does not work here. Its a conservative forum, and your thinking on the issue is not conservative. Its the same thinking that brought us the Brady Bill and gun control.
There you go. In the Alaskan wild, let them have all the pitbulls they want. In my neighborhood - or any neighborhood where there are children, either ban 'em or make it legal to shoot them if they are out of someone's yard off a leash.
As a matter of fact the picture of the child you posted showed a single bite injury where a dog had grabbed the child.
Your are sick - literally - if you look at that childs face and minimize her injuries as you have.
A huskie would...
We are not talking about Huskies (we are not talking about SUV's or about guns). You are completely incapable of sticking to the sujbect, pitbulls in residential neighborhoods.
Take your single incident driven mentality...
I'm guilty on that one. It is the many incidents of pitbulls viciously attacking or simply terrorizing neighborhoods that has me (and many others) wanting to ban pitbulls.
...with which you would end the good ownership of dogs by good handlers...
I've seen an incident where the pitbull of a good owner attacked a child. He could not believe it. He had years of experience with dogs and sounded just like you before that incident. Now he says no one should own the things anywhere that children can be exposed to them. That is full experience talking.
Add to that the irresponsible, incapable and the punks that want a pitbull and now you have real trouble. Yet, you will not even propose that an owner of a pitbull must prove they are, as you say, good handlers before they can own one. Do you propose even that much?
take it on over to MOVE ON.ORG. Such thinking does not work here.
Shall we put it to a vote of FR? Help me work out the poll questions and the answers and we will put your assertion to the test. My suggested poll question and answer would be as follows:
Should pitbulls be allowed in residential neighborhoods?
- Yes, anyone should be allowed to own one.
- Yes, but they must prove they can handle pitbulls.
- No, they should be banned.
-No, the breed should be made extinct.
Unfortunately, for probably the last twenty years, pit bulls have been bred to be aggressive and as such, I wouldn't own one. I've also known several pit bull owners, and most of them breed the dogs for fighting, and fight them.
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