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1 posted on 05/19/2006 7:17:28 AM PDT by Perdogg
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What is needed to file suit against the District Attorney for prosecutorial misconduct? Yesterday many of the 'law' experts on different television stations were saying, Mike Nufong rushed to get a speedy indictment without following the usual procedure. His actions are certainly questionable, and he has, without a doubt, helped incite a racist problem in Durham.

Greta Van Susteren reported the black man as saying after court to Reade Seligman, "YOU'RE a dead man walking!"...that definitely sounds like a threat, and that man should have been arrested and charged for threatening the life of Seligman, IMO. I wish I knew the law, because to the average person, it certainly seems like a 'change of venue' is called for in this case.

85 posted on 05/19/2006 8:58:01 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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The delay is to totally destroy these innocent men!
The prosecutor knows that he is slavishly following the dictates of the militant gender feminists and race-hucksters, and that he is wrong!
This way the feminazis and hate-preachers can jump up and down for a year and say "see, white men are rapists".


94 posted on 05/19/2006 9:05:08 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: Perdogg

As in after the election?


95 posted on 05/19/2006 9:05:21 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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"The case "is not going to jump ahead of the line and be handled any differently," Superior Court Judge Ronald L. Stephens said at a hearing for sophomore Reade Seligmann."

So is the delay due to normal court backlog, or some other reason?
104 posted on 05/19/2006 9:14:55 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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DURHAM, N.C.—One of three Duke University lacrosse players charged with rape wants the case resolved in time for the next school year, his lawyer said in court yesterday. But the judge warned he will not fast-track the proceedings.

What the hell happened to the right to a speedy trial?

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

140 posted on 05/19/2006 10:42:13 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (The social contract is breaking down.)
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I know that Nifong won a Democrat primary with no opposing Republican. Does that make it too late for someone to mount a write-in campaign during the general election? He still has to win a general election, right? Isn't he really the presumptive winner now, or will they not have a general election for his position because no Republican opposed him in the primary?

Is he delaying this trial until 2007 because he knows he can still lose his job in November if it all hits the fan before then, or is his job secure?

-PJ

170 posted on 05/19/2006 12:22:44 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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This is such a boatload of crap! If these guys were as guilty as the DA says they are, then he would go ahead with a trial.


188 posted on 05/19/2006 1:58:03 PM PDT by SAMS (Nobody loves a soldier until the enemy is at the gate; Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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There is probably a pretty big backlog of criminal cases in Durham, I ain't suprised that the case won't be heard for a long time.

The real miscreant in this case is the DA.

Whatever motivated this prostitute to make the bogus complaint, she can't back out now as the DA got the dirt on her for car theft, maybe drugs, prostitution or other charges as well.

If she doesn't play Mr. Nifong's game, she is definitely screwed, and that was the reason for picking up the cabbie on the old warrant- a signal to the prostitute.


255 posted on 05/19/2006 5:43:12 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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Hope you're feeling better and that you can shed some light on this idiot judge. I'm just sick for these poor guys and their families. There ought to be a law to keep out of control prosecutors in check. It's not enough that this farking D.A. is making these guys wait a year to clear their names in a trial, they've got to completely put their lives on hold and continue to live under the false premise that they've done something wrong when ALL the evidence proves otherwise.

Nifong deserves to be tortured and ruined, and I'm not so sure this judge doesn't deserve the same. This judge is either bought and paid for, or he's scared of retaliation from the black militants, as he should insist on this trial getting underway no later than July. I'm praying for some long overdue justice.


272 posted on 05/19/2006 6:23:03 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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Hannity just had some more talking heads on. He has been insisting for some time that the boys are innocent. Colmes, however, latched on to a comment by one of the "experts" who said that if they find evidence of a date rape drug in her toxicology report, that would be huge. What I want to know is why? If there is no evidence of rape why would the presence of the date rape drug prove anything?
302 posted on 05/19/2006 7:12:32 PM PDT by luv2ski
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Check out this article from findlaw.com:

Is The District Attorney In The Duke Lacrosse Rape Scandal Turning A Blind Eye To Valuable Evidence?

The Cold, Hard Proof That Suggests The Three Defendants Are Innocent

By JONNA SPILBOR

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Friday, May. 19, 2006

On Monday, May 15, a Durham County grand jury handed up a third indictment in the nothing-short-of-notorious Duke rape case. This latest indictment charges the lacrosse team's captain, David Evans, with first-degree rape, first-degree sexual assault, and first-degree kidnapping.

The charges against Evans are identical to those handed up last month against fellow players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty. Still, this final indictment does come as a bit of surprise. As I detailed in a prior column, the cases against Seligmann and Finnerty appear quite weak. As I'll discuss in this column, the case against Evans may be even shakier.

-- http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20060519_spilbor.html

Does this article warrant its own thread?

364 posted on 05/19/2006 9:42:52 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: abb; amutr22; Alia; AntiGuv; AmishDude; Bogeygolfer; BossLady; Brytani; beyondashadow; bwteim; ...

updates:

1) Abrahms guest said the nurse asked the if condoms were used and she said no. "Magic Condom" is now gone, along with the "Magic broomstick".

2)Apparently, according to chatter on the Duke fansite, the FA (False Accuser)called her boyfriend (yet unconfirmed) when she was preparing to leave the house.

3) new word: fong (fông) v. - to prosecute a case without merit to the point of misconduct. Ex: “The DA fonged the case so bad he was thrown out of office and run out of town.”

snoopjackson.acctalk.com/


4) Exchange between Tucker Carlson and Wendy Murphy

CARLSON: Let‘s do this. Look into—you‘re filibustering me, but I‘m going to ask you this until you answer. And here‘s my question. It‘s very simple. I want you to look into the screen and I want you to tell me and our viewers that doubts are not beginning to mount in your mind about the prosecution in this case. Are they?


MURPHY: No. No doubts. No doubts in my mind...


CARLSON: Really?

MURPHY: ... about what the prosecution is doing.

CARLSON: Wendy. I‘ve got a cult you need to join.

MURPHY: All right. Seligmann is charged with two counts, one rape, one sexual assault.

CARLSON: That‘s correct.

MURPHY: One regular intercourse. One is a different type of penetration.

CARLSON: Yes.

MURPHY: However, if you read the transcript of her identification process, when she talks about Seligmann, he says, “What did he do?”

“He forced me to perform oral sex.

CARLSON: That‘s correct.

MURPHY: Anything else? No, nothing else.

CARLSON: That‘s right.

MURPHY: Where did the two charges come from? I‘m just being honest as a critic of the evidence. I want to know the answer to that question. Am I fair or what?


5) FWIW, here's the link the the alleged victim's support sight.

www.ourheartsworld.com/


6) Was there a confirmation of no date rape drug?

http://mb18.scout.com/fdevilsdenfrm3.showMessageRange?topicID=3399.topic&start=301&stop=320


368 posted on 05/19/2006 10:29:47 PM PDT by Perdogg
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From friendsofdukelacrosse.blogspot.com:

Dear Reade, I am so sorry for what you endured yesterday from the media and the ignorant haters. The way you conducted yourself in the courtroom inspired pride in all of our hearts.

The wall of lies against you, Collin and Dave is crumbing down. Have faith. Hold your head up, continue to be strong and know your team mates and their families are standing with you.

A Team Mom

http://friendsofdukelacrosse.blogspot.com/2006/05/messages-to-players-and-coaches.html

376 posted on 05/19/2006 11:21:42 PM PDT by Ken H
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My Prediction

A delay before trial is better for the defense than the prosecution. Crystal is a druggie, a slut, and an alcoholic. No matter how much money she gets from outside, she will spend it all on drugs and need more.

Now if in about 3 or 4 months someone were to offer her a substantial chunk of money, say $10k, to do a part in an "adult" film, she might take it. After all, her sex life isn't admisible.

Now of course it may not be admissible, but when the DVD shows up all over town, it is going to become common knowledge. It will be hard to prevent the entire jury pool from hearing about it...

377 posted on 05/19/2006 11:35:43 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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Maybe Nifong doesn't want to give up his free lap dances for another year?


460 posted on 05/20/2006 9:23:21 AM PDT by aShepard (-)
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NCCU to alter media rules

At one point, Saunders said, a reporter with a national magazine went table to table in the NCCU cafeteria, asking students if they knew the alleged victim, mentioning her name repeatedly.

499 posted on 05/20/2006 1:02:35 PM PDT by TexKat
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Some members of the Durham City Council urged the body to take a formal vote of confidence in City Manager Patrick Baker at a meeting Thursday.

The proposal followed a challenging week for Baker. He was criticized publicly by defense attorneys for his close supervision of the Duke lacrosse rape investigation, and he was forced to accept the resignation of the city's new solid waste director after trash across the city went uncollected.

500 posted on 05/20/2006 1:07:38 PM PDT by TexKat
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Here's an article to consider posting as a thread:

In Duke Case, A Rogues' Gallery

By Stuart Taylor Jr., National Journal © National Journal Group Inc.
Monday, May 22, 2006

My rogues' gallery does not (in all probability) include any Duke University lacrosse player.

http://nationaljournal.com/taylor.htm

779 posted on 05/22/2006 11:03:32 AM PDT by Ken H
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