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Director of Getty Is Unrattled by Claims of Italy and Greece to Antiquities
New York Times ^ | May 15, 2006 | Hugh Eakin

Posted on 05/17/2006 8:53:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

But in the case of an Etruscan terra-cotta antefix, or roof ornament, installed on the ground floor of the Getty Villa, Mr. Brand said that a photograph seized from Mr. Medici was only a partial match. The photograph shows the bottom half of the antefix that is now in the museum, yet is paired with a different top half that was never acquired by the Getty. The Getty's top half does not appear in any of the photographs.

"So what do you do?" Mr. Brand asked. "Break it apart again and send them half?"

...Mr. Brand went out of his way to praise Ms. True, characterizing her direction of the villa reinstallation as brilliant and visionary. He called her abrupt resignation from the Getty last fall a tragedy. He also defended the contributions of the former Getty trustee Barbara Fleischman and her husband, Lawrence, who died in 1997. Their antiquities collection and its acquisition by the Getty in 1996 have been at the center of the case against Ms. True.

Getty officials make no apologies for having assembled their collection with the help of private collectors, from material on the open market that often lacks archaeological information. Visitors to the villa are constantly reminded of the contributions of Ms. True and the Fleischmans, in whose honor a new outdoor amphitheater has been named.

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Michael Brand, the Getty's director, at the Getty Villa; he will meet with Greek officials in Athens tomorrow. [Monica Almeida/The New York Times]

Director of Getty Is Unrattled by Claims of Italy and Greece to Antiquities

1 posted on 05/17/2006 8:53:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 05/17/2006 8:53:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Archaeologists Debate Whether to Ignore the Pasts of Relics
New York Times | May 2, 2006 | Hugh Eakin
Posted on 05/02/2006 2:01:22 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
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Removing relics vs. preserving history (op-ed)
Christian Science Monitor | May 17, 2006 | Randy Salzman
Posted on 05/17/2006 11:48:46 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
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3 posted on 05/17/2006 8:55:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Getty is a very nice museum. However, you have to make a reservation to park there so be sure to call several days in advance.

Now, about any claims the Greeks or Italians had to those antiquities, baloney ~ those guys can't even agree on a simple Sunday mass.

In the meantime the antiquities are in much better hands.

4 posted on 05/17/2006 9:06:49 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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"In the meantime the antiquities are in much better hands."

you'll really like this one, then:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1633768/posts

from:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0517/p09s02-coop.html


5 posted on 05/17/2006 9:13:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Have seen the Elgin Marbles in London. If it'd been up to the Turks they'd have crushed them for use as road ballast.


6 posted on 05/17/2006 9:17:13 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

If it'd been up to the Turks they'd have crushed them for use as road ballast.
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The Turks have already destroyed vast amounts of ancient Pre Muslim artifacts/temples/churches/etc.

The esteem the Greeks held the Parthenon and its significance to the Hellenic psyche and culture can be seen from the fact that at one stage during the War of Independence against the Turks the Greeks supplied the Turks with ammunition to stop the Turks destroying the Parthenon to obtain the metal supports contained in the temple!

The main point about the Parthenon Marbles is that they represent the cultural patrimony of the descendants of the ancient Greeks who are firmly in control of their nation...the Greeks. Of course the acrimonious debate has softened recently with major objections having been solved.

Bottom line: The frieze was bought illegally and should now be returned. London has made millions off it. Elgin cared more for his own acquisiton than he cared for the Greeks themselves and their struggle for independence.


7 posted on 05/17/2006 1:19:46 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

Still, most of the stories about the Turkish governments and ancient monuments are poppycock. Private individuals, however, are a different matter.


8 posted on 05/17/2006 8:23:43 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: eleni121

You have a valid point, but the the frieze is better off in London because they will do a better job of preserving it.


9 posted on 05/19/2006 6:18:08 AM PDT by Seven Minute Maniac
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To: Seven Minute Maniac

Actully the Brits have a lot to answer for since they have damaged the Mables irreparably!

You need to get beyond your stereotypes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/parthenon/article/0,,195563,00.html


10 posted on 05/19/2006 9:34:35 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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