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What is your opinion of 911's tower collapse
Email ^ | April 29, 2006 | Blogger

Posted on 04/29/2006 3:40:05 PM PDT by Blogger

I received an email from a friend regarding the Trade Towers collapse. I haven't watched the entire video in the attachment as it is over an hour and I have other things for my Saturday planned. However, before I watch it, for those who have seen such 'evidence' that the towers collapsed due to controlled implosion or something like that, what is your view of the conspiracy theory. I've never seen Michael Moore's stuff (don't plan on seeing it either). I haven't delved too deeply into any of the conspiracys other than to know they exist. Am interested in hearing the Freepers take on things though.

Please don't reply unless you have studied the evidence from both sides.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 911; 911conspiracy; conspiracy; dummie; laffriot; loosechange; moonbattiness; nutjob; retread; tinfoilhat; troll; whacko; worldtradetowers
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To: cripplecreek

One thing left out is these buildings have huge basements and sub basements. They are all connected and what do you think happens when something like 911 happens. One building goes down, pressure releases and other connected buildings come down.


41 posted on 04/29/2006 4:47:16 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Oh bug off. I told you the truth. Your incredulity is not warranted.


42 posted on 04/29/2006 4:47:22 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Sloth

I didn't think to look at Snopes because too often it has a liberal slant.


43 posted on 04/29/2006 4:48:51 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Frankly because people will come here to see if it has been addressed.

Try doing a search on keyword 911conspiracy

It has been addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed. And addressed.

I guess that was not enough for you so you want to address it again.

Perhaps you would like to post I AM A BAD AMERICAN by Andy Rooney-Carlin-Nugget.

44 posted on 04/29/2006 4:49:49 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill (pink bow))
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To: Sloth

This is a helpful response. Thank you.


45 posted on 04/29/2006 4:50:01 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
Yeah. It is.

Learn how to do a search.

46 posted on 04/29/2006 4:50:33 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill (pink bow))
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To: twidle
Takes a Troll to know a Troll!!

Only in Wonderland. What childish "reasoning" you use here.

47 posted on 04/29/2006 4:51:35 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1623690/posts?page=228#228 clawrence3:"law abiding illegals")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Whatever, Harmless. Whatever. By the way, have you studied both sides in depth? Or did you just decide to sign on a thread to act like a jerk to someone who asked a simple question about something she had received today? Other responses have been helpful. This forum would run more smoothly if we first assumed respect for one another and attacked ideas rather than the person bringing up the subject.


48 posted on 04/29/2006 4:55:34 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
More commentary on this stupid film can be found here:

Conspiracy Film Rewrites Sept. 11 (Lunatic Alert!)

 

Here's a Penn Gillette video completely debunking these kooks:

http://luckydawgnews.com/911conspiracybs.html

WARNING!!!! EXTREME PROFANITY!!!

 

49 posted on 04/29/2006 4:58:19 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: freedumb2003

So, YOU LIVE IN WONDERLAND. What Troll hole is that??


50 posted on 04/29/2006 5:00:23 PM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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To: Blogger
By the way, have you studied both sides in depth?

Quite some time ago.

This forum would run more smoothly...

If people would quit posting junk that they received in their e-mail.

Or would learn how to do a simple search.

51 posted on 04/29/2006 5:00:43 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill (pink bow))
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To: cripplecreek
That's my take too. These jets were very full of fuel, that's actually what the terrorist wanted, and that's what took the towers down. All these conspiracy theories are garbage...man these were out within 24 hrs of 911.

PURE GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE

52 posted on 04/29/2006 5:01:11 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Blogger

There were several informative studies and engineering investigations performed on each of the structures that were destoyed and damaged from 9-11 (not just the twin towers).

Here are some other links
http://www.architectureweek.com/2001/1017/index.html
http://google.asce.org/search?client=asce&proxystylesheet=asce&output=xml_no_dtd&site=asce&q=WTC+progressive+collapse&x=0&y=0
http://search.aisc.org:8080/cs.html?charset=iso-8859-1&url=http%3A//www.aisc.org/Template.cfm%3FSection%3DBack_Issues1%26template%3D/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm%26ContentID%3D21433&qt=wtc+failure+analysis&col=full&n=1&la=en

This last one is probably the best read. It's a .pdf download of a file named 2003_01_wtc.pdf

It probably answers most cosmetic questions that might arise by a conspiract theory (after all it was a conspiracy, the conspirators died when they crashed the jets into the WTC)

Hope this helps.


53 posted on 04/29/2006 5:01:54 PM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Blogger; Harmless Teddy Bear; freedumb2003

Blogger bit of advice: HarmlessTeddyBear, Freedumb2003, hk409 all trolls. IGNORE THEM. Have been remprimanded by administrator in past. Guess Saturday Afternoons bring out the MOONBATS RUS Brigade.

I know you to be interesting read on FR.


54 posted on 04/29/2006 5:05:01 PM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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To: kerryusama04
"http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=7&c=y"

Interesting link, kerryusama. Thanks for putting it in here.

After reading down through the bottom of the Flight 93 page, this quote may suggest that the passengers may have actually managed to re-take control of the plane and bring it out of it's dive, but not quite in time.

If the plane dove straight in at the speed given, there would have been no re-bounding of the plane or plane parts, I don't think. The quote shows that part of an engine landed 300 feet from where the plane augered in. I'd guess it was beginning to level off after the passengers dispensed with the highjackers/suicidal-homicidal crazies before it crashed and the engine fan hit at an angle that would allow it to bounce and continue forward after first impact. Just a guess.

"Jeff Reinbold, the National Park Service representative responsible for the Flight 93 National Memorial, confirms the direction and distance from the crash site to the basin: just over 300 yards south, which means the fan landed in the direction the jet was traveling. "It's not unusual for an engine to move or tumble across the ground," says Michael K. Hynes, an airline accident expert who investigated the crash of TWA Flight 800 out of New York City in 1996. "When you have very high velocities, 500 mph or more," Hynes says, "you are talking about 700 to 800 ft. per second. For something to hit the ground with that kind of energy, it would only take a few seconds to bounce up and travel 300 yards." Numerous crash analysts contacted by PM concur."

55 posted on 04/29/2006 5:11:01 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: twidle
Have been reprimanded by administrator in past.

Lier.

56 posted on 04/29/2006 5:16:55 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill (pink bow))
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To: shield

1) It actually was a conspiracy,..a conspiracy of Muslim extremists who mostly were all killed in the attack.

2) It has later been determined the fuel in the planes merely acted as a match. The fires which brought down the towers were secondary furnishings and offices burning and their effect on steel columns, whose fireproofing had been stripped by the aircraft impacts. See the Jan'03 issue of Modern Steel Construction (AISC publication).

Interestingly, it has also been determined the other fireproofing had been intact except for where the aircraft struck, which further reduces the nutty CT that the bldgs were rigged to fall from the fires.


57 posted on 04/29/2006 5:20:05 PM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"This forum would run more smoothly...

If people would quit posting junk " posted by Harmless Teddy Bear.


58 posted on 04/29/2006 5:22:28 PM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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To: twidle

So you are going to quit posting?


59 posted on 04/29/2006 5:24:56 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Ditch the 1967 Outer Space Treaty! I want my own space bar and grill (pink bow))
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Good for you!! Quit Posting like a good little girl!!! ....at least until you get a mind, which is probably never, so good bye FOREVER.


60 posted on 04/29/2006 5:27:18 PM PDT by twidle (Just because everybody does it doesn't make it ok!!)
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