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Lacrosse players face old charges (Nifong retaliates against Duke Lax)
News & Observer ^ | April 25, 2006 | Benjamin Niolet and Joseph Neff

Posted on 04/25/2006 2:34:48 AM PDT by abb

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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; OakOak
Either that, or Jimmy is in trouble down by the old mill!

Only a geezer would say that.... and only another geezer would get it....;)

I kinda understand why OakOak left us because it was our loss, and I hope that's who rejoined as hugs and kisses... OO had a lot of inside info...

when you've been around as long as I have you learn to have very thick skin...

but back to the case...

correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the AV get candy from the store for her kids before she went "to work"? and weren't the kids at daddy's house? I know the MSM has refused to identify him but someone earlier published some personal info that was deleted by the mods...

hmmmmmm......

1,101 posted on 04/26/2006 7:11:54 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: bvw

God bless you.


1,102 posted on 04/26/2006 7:12:19 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Locomotive Breath

You can be certain the defense team will bring it up...they can list all her stories and ask her just which one is correct?....this is never going to trial...


1,103 posted on 04/26/2006 7:13:06 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: All

Anymore information on the BSM that was incarcerated 4/16?


1,104 posted on 04/26/2006 7:13:09 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: TexKat

I read that one with the misleading headline a few days back. Maybe I am missing it, but I sure did not see any of these potential Duke students discussed in the article as "Lacrosse prospects" as the headline promises.

And naturally with the season trashed and no coach, I am not surprised. I would be pretty shocked if a top lacrosse prospect enrolls in Duke in August.


1,105 posted on 04/26/2006 7:15:18 PM PDT by JLS
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To: darbymcgill

You've got mail!


1,106 posted on 04/26/2006 7:15:21 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: darbymcgill

What info was deleted?


1,107 posted on 04/26/2006 7:16:46 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief

Hi there, you've got mail!


1,108 posted on 04/26/2006 7:19:02 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: darbymcgill

Yes, the father said she went to the store that evening to get candy and soda for the kids - but he didn't say what time that evening.

And we have detective Rod Wheeler on O'Reilly saying the Durham PD knows where she was before going to the Buchanan house and that she was intoxicated.

So maybe she did go to the store, but that was much earlier, maybe even before the kids' bedtimes, and doesn't shed any light on where she was during the 2-3 hrs. before the lacrosse players' party.


1,109 posted on 04/26/2006 7:19:36 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: All

Anyone familiar with the pimp/dancer scene? Do family members ever work together?


1,110 posted on 04/26/2006 7:19:44 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: maggief
What info was deleted?

I didnt' read the link... the MODS told us it was deleted because FR doesn't allow personal information to be posted...

Maybe the person who posted it can give you a private or something....

1,111 posted on 04/26/2006 7:19:55 PM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: TexKat

Thanks, TK.

Checking on the "younguns?"


1,112 posted on 04/26/2006 7:22:19 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: abb
On Greta: All the panelists, including Ted Williams, criticizing Nifong's handling of the case. Saw a brief video of Nifong. Did anyone notice his right eye twitching? I don't recall him having that at the Charlotte community meeting a couple of weeks ago.

Ted tries to blame defense for trying the case in public. Gets rebutted by other panelists.

Gretta interviewed Duke coed friend of Collin Finnerty. She was very well spoken, and gave a strong endorsement of him. Said he is a gentleman.

1,113 posted on 04/26/2006 7:27:59 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Saw it. All the thumbsuckers (tv talking head pundits) realize they've hitchet their wagon to a dead horse...


1,114 posted on 04/26/2006 7:29:33 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Locomotive Breath
Ideas, to get into people's minds, and not be lost in the maze of objections, preconceptions and misconceptions that afflict all our limited human minds, have to have a "bite". Marketing people know that -- not sales people, marketeers. Sales people, use other interpersonal techniques -- they rely on marketeers to have already established in the public's mind the ideations and concepts of the thing sold.

Ideas, primal ideas, are not "logical". Logic -- such as the logic of naked snake in the Garden of Eden -- can work to obscure or pervert the idea, the ideals.

Yes at times I'd expect that my replies may seem disjoint, strange or confusing to the average reader. They are not, but in order to shoot my quiver of ideas into your mind, I apply that "supercharging" edge to them.

Now I am not trying to harm you at all -- I'm just using a analogy. I'm hoping you'll (1) learn to catch, barehanded, the arrows as they fly with shao-lin-like speed, and (2) learn to shoot back with the ideas G-d has blessed you with, with ideas that have an "edge" and are in motion.

1,115 posted on 04/26/2006 7:30:48 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Far out, dude.


1,116 posted on 04/26/2006 7:32:18 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: gop_gene

I agree.


1,117 posted on 04/26/2006 7:32:29 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: maggief
Checking on the "younguns?"

He didn't even give her full address. Perhaps this wasn't the first time the police checked on CM's "younguns."

Otherwise there are more transmissions which haven't been released.

1,118 posted on 04/26/2006 7:35:59 PM PDT by Publius22
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To: bvw
Ideas, to get into people's minds, and not be lost in the maze of objections, preconceptions and misconceptions that afflict all our limited human minds, have to have a "bite". Marketing people know that -- not sales people, marketeers. Sales people, use other interpersonal techniques -- they rely on marketeers to have already established in the public's mind the ideations and concepts of the thing sold.

I propose the following superset of your post (if I may):

Media, by altering the environment, evoke in us unique ratios of sense perceptions. The extension of any one sense alters the way we think and act - the way we perceive the world. When these ratios change, MEN CHANGE
--Marshall McLuhan

1,119 posted on 04/26/2006 7:38:23 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: Locomotive Breath

So my question is, if this ever gets to court, can the purported rape victim be forced to account for her changing stories? In other words, are the earlier tales she's told admissible for comparison with her testimony on the stand?
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Yes which is why one of the things the defense demanded from the prosecutor the other day in the filing was every statement she has made to Durham authorities including how confident her ID was and how many chances did she have to have to make an ID.

And really they should not have had to ask. Prosecutors have a legal obligation to give exculpitory evidence to the defense.


1,120 posted on 04/26/2006 7:40:49 PM PDT by JLS
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