Posted on 04/23/2006 8:52:59 AM PDT by TexKat
DURHAM -- Results from the second round of DNA tests in connection with the Duke lacrosse rape investigation will not likely be available before May 15, District Attorney Mike Nifong said Saturday.
Nifong also denied an allegation by some defense attorneys that the second exotic dancer at the March 13 party where the rape allegedly occurred received special treatment from Nifong's office so she'd cooperate with the prosecutor.
Kim Roberts, 31, was arrested March 22 -- eight days after the lacrosse party -- on a probation violation from a 2001 conviction for embezzling $25,000.
The same day a grand jury indicted lacrosse players Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty, a judge agreed to a change so that Roberts would no longer have to pay a 15 percent fee to a bonding agent. Nifong signed a document saying he would not oppose the change.
Soon after the rape allegation was made, Roberts told defense attorneys that she doubted the story of her colleague who told police she was dragged into a bathroom and raped. But in an interview last week with the Associated Press, Roberts said she thinks some players -- she's not sure which ones -- are guilty.
"It seems she is receiving very favorable financial treatment [from prosecutors] for what she is now saying," said Bill Thomas, a defense attorney for one of the lacrosse players who has not been indicted.
Nifong said Saturday that wasn't his motive in agreeing to change Roberts' bond from secured to unsecured.
"It's consistent with local bonding policy," Nifong said, when asked why he supported the change.
Nifong, who faces two challengers in the May 2 Democratic primary, attended a meet-and-greet with supporters Saturday at Joe & Jo's Downtown Restaurant and Pub, where he fielded a few questions from The Herald-Sun.
Nifong ordered the second round of DNA tests from a private lab after initial tests by the SBI crime lab in Raleigh failed to find DNA from any of 46 lacrosse players tested on or in the accuser, nor any of her DNA in the bathroom in which she said she was raped, sodomized, beaten and strangled for 30 minutes by three men.
Some defense attorneys had said they expected the new DNA test results last week.
You make my point.
Actually Kim has never said they left the house and were coaxed back inside to dance some more.
The boys have never said that either.
I'm thinking the AV made that part up. Note the police affidavit describing the AV's account does not include anything about her going to the car and going back to then get her shoe.
After listening to the Kim interview, I don't think ANYONE is going to sweet-talk her into dancing again after she has made up her mind that she was "disrepected" and "the show is OVER."
I think the coaxed back inside info came from Kim, and we all know how honest she is.
Yes, as far as the rape, and if those indicted had the opportunity to do it, no time really matters except for the time between 12:04am and 12:30 am.
Well said....
Our next door neighbor is a Duke grad as are we (oddly coincidental). She went to The National Security Law Conference at Duke this week. The Public Affairs Director of the Law School spoke to her small group and not knowing that there was an alumna in the group, related this story: An african-american father called me this week to ask if his daughter, who had been admitted to the law school, would be safe on this campus. I told him (the public affairs director) "I don't know [if she would be safe]. I can't answer that question."
My neighbor apparently let loose on him. She said she saw a lot of "innocent" t-shirts on the students and is stunned at the ineptitude of Brodhead. No clue how they are accomplishing any university business (education?) since Broadhead has let the media completely overrun the campus. He has to go.
Beautiful. Did you have Oates?
Well, the problem with this explanation is the cabbie must have been out front of the Buchanan house because he saw someone (obviously Kim) run out from around the house and get into the car, arguing with the boys.
Another possible explanation is that the cabbie Mostafa NEVER PUT HIS FLAG DOWN until a few minutes later. He said he sensed it was a bad scene and told the boys to get in the car so they could go. In all the fluster and commotion, it may have been a few minutes until Mostafa noticed he had not started the meter running. It may be the time recorded as when the meter started (1:07) that he is relying on.
<< I think the coaxed back inside info came from Kim, and we all know how honest she is. >>
No, that information did NOT come from Kim.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1618884/posts?page=62#62
The most crucial question- how much time elapsed between the period Kim was seperated from AV until Kim saw AV again?
That was the only time the rape could have happened- and it completely exonerates Seligman. The girls stop dancing at 12:03. They lock themsleves in the bathroom. Then they go out to Kim's car. The Duke boys convince them to go back in the house. AV and Kim get seperated. Then both strippers leave and go out to Kim's car. AV says she forgot her shoe and goes back to the door- we see the time of the photo is 12:30. There wasn't enough time for a rape. My theory- I think once they went back in the house, Kim was negotiating for the rest of the money the Duke boys owed them and AV was using the bathroom to relieve herself. The boys wouldn't pay any more money and nasty words were exchanged. AV came out of the bathroom and both strippers left with Kim swearing up a storm and insulting the Duke boys. AV went back to get her shoe but the boys wouldn't let her in and wouldn't give the shoe back. Drunken AV falls down steps and Duke boy takes several pics. I think the rest of the Duke boys were already outside trading insults with Kim. Duke captain helps stripper to car while Duke boys continue to hurl insults.Kim knows no rape happened because she was only seperated from AV for a few minutes.
p.s. Who's Oates?
Oates taught the Greek tragedies, Alexander the Great, etc. He was apparently a brillant scholar who (hic) had some (hic) issues. He became the easy "A" for the ATO crowd mostly because his grad students graded the exams. His final for "Alexander the Great" was "Was Alexander Great?" (Correct answer--no). I know he had been there for a while and thought you might have known him.
I didn't realize until I just looked--Brodhead was at Yale for 32 years. He is an expert on post civil war African-American diaries and North Carolina history as related to African-American diaries. Hmmmmmm. Perhaps he has the Durham of 1866 confused with the Durham of 2006.
You told me that discovery was due immediately to the other side?
Can the defense demand an update from the private firm conducting these tests?
Having family that goes back in the south at least until "The War", I know that you cannot understand race relations in the south by reading about them in a book at Yale. Where did Brodhead grow up? Is this his first sojourn in the south? Welcome to your practicum Dr. Brodhead.
Uncle Terry would not have let it come to this.
Although she would not talk extensively about the party, she confirmed some of what the other dancer told police including that the women initially left the party after one of the players threatened to sodomize the women with a broomstick.
Ah, engineering! That explains your common sense.
Check out the departments of the 88 Duke professors that signed the public statement calling for the lacrosse team to be thrown under the bus.
You don't see too many professors from the natural and applied sciences.
Right on the time frame of interest and some one earlier speculated that the defense is holding back photos from 12:04 to 12:30 since the two currently accused have alibis and should a third person be indicted we will see more pictures. That to me is a reasonable conjecture.
Before Yale--Andover. But I thought we hated the entitled? Feeling a little guilty "Dick"?
From the Duke Biography:
"Richard H. Brodhead became Duke's ninth president on July 1, 2004, after a 32-year career at Yale University. In addition to serving as president, he is a professor of English at Duke.
Since arriving at Duke, in addition to emphasizing the importance of academic freedom and free speech in a democratic society, Brodhead has focused much of his leadership on enriching the undergraduate experience of Duke students and expanding the university's financial aid endowment to ensure that a Duke education is accessible to qualified students regardless of their family's financial circumstances. He has called for Duke to become an international center in addressing health care inequities through a major global health initiative involving faculty and schools across the university, and has championed Duke's efforts to bring the fruits of faculty and student research through a translational process to serve society. Brodhead has also been active in Durham promoting K-12 public education, several new community health clinics, and neighborhood revitalization through the Duke-Durham Neighborhood Partnership.
Nationally, Brodhead has been involved with education issues through the Business-Higher Education Forum, of which he is a member, and the Carnegie Corporation of New York, of which he is a trustee. He has also held a Presidential appointment to the J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board, which is engaged with issues of international education and cross-cultural exchange.
Born in Dayton, Ohio, Brodhead graduated from Yale in 1968 and received his Ph.D. there in 1972. He then joined the Yale faculty, where he became the A. Bartlett Giamatti Professor of English and American Studies. Brodhead's pioneering edition of the diaries of Charles W. Chestnutt, the leading African-American author of the post-Civil War generation, led him to do substantial research on the history of North Carolina before he came to Duke. His scholarly work has been honored by election to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. A devoted teacher, Brodhead won the DeVane Medal for outstanding teaching at Yale and spent eight summers teaching high school teachers at the Bread Loaf School at Middlebury, Vermont. He has lectured widely in universities in this country and in Europe and Asia.
Maybe Kim stole the money and gave Crystal something for the head?
Just saying...
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