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Case Aganst Duke Student Unraveling Fast
ABC GMA | Chris Cummo

Posted on 04/19/2006 4:37:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Breaking overnight from Chris Cummo at ABC GMA:

Case against at least one Duke defemdant unraveling fast.

Defendant Seiligman went to bank ATM while rape supposedly happening.

12:02 Time stamped photos show girl arriving. Girl leaves, comes back, call friends on cell phone does other things. 12:19 Seiligman calls cab dispatcher 12:24 Seiligman takes cab to bank miles away, uses ATM card (photos show it is him.) 12:42 after walking back to dorm, Seiligman uses security card to enter dorm. Does not leave.

Also, Seiligman was never interviewed by cops. DA seeking reelection simply took "Dancers" word that he raped her.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; greedygrifter; lyingfordollars
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To: KevinB

"Why would he go to a bank machine in the early morning hours if he was just going back to his dorm?"

He bought food after the ATM. Ever been out late, out of cash, and had the munchies? I've taken a cab to an ATM, had the cab drive me to a fast food joint, and then gone home countless times.

This isn't fishy. Not even a little bit.


701 posted on 04/19/2006 12:01:37 PM PDT by piytar
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To: Peach

Peach, make sure you're back before Nancy Grace ... I can't do it alone. :)


702 posted on 04/19/2006 12:01:44 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: investigateworld

Would you have shown her pictures two weeks ago of the players with their shirts off that were taken ten days after the incident?


703 posted on 04/19/2006 12:01:44 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

It's actually quite difficult to change the embedded information for an image file. You can edit the image and save it, but then you will have the fingerprints of the editing program.

Obviously a hacker could attempt to alter the info, but that would take an unreasonable amount of time an skill, considering the unanticipated motive for doing so.


704 posted on 04/19/2006 12:01:50 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: connectthedots

A recent case from the U.S. Supreme Court says you need the consent of both partners in a domestic couple to search their residence. I wonder how that applies to three lacrosse players living together in a house? I suspect it will be read broadly to protect the defendant, so they would probably need the consent of all players who lived in the house.


705 posted on 04/19/2006 12:02:12 PM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: Perdogg
I want to make sure I am clear about something. The alleged raped, according to the AV, took place between midnight and 12:30am, correct?

Well, that's the story at this moment. Hold tight, I'm sure we'll see yet another shift in this ever-evolving tale. Nifong is still working on the details.

706 posted on 04/19/2006 12:02:19 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: wagglebee
Compare this to 15 years ago when Ted Kennedy, Patrick Kennedy and William Kennedy Smith went out drinking in Palm Beach. Smith rapes a woman, Tubby was walking around the mansion half-naked trying to accost the women, etc.

What does the media do? They immediately report the victim's name and drag her through the mud.

Excellent point!!!

707 posted on 04/19/2006 12:02:36 PM PDT by NeonKnight (We don't believe you, you need more people.)
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To: Perdogg

I don't think the prosecution has provided a specific time, just specific events. The defense has offered their own time line to prove the accused innocence.


708 posted on 04/19/2006 12:02:38 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Krodg

That's why the defense was taunting him all last week. Also he had to arrest someone before the election. That's all there is to that schedule.


709 posted on 04/19/2006 12:02:53 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Krodg

They were searching Finnerty's dorm for his computer, did I hear that right on FNC?

He's been suspended, left town, and probably took it with him. LOL


710 posted on 04/19/2006 12:03:59 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Carling
I'll speculate that they hired a private cab because they wanted to go get some food. The safe ride on my campus would only take us immediately home.

Now that you mention it, I remember somebody posting an exerpt from the Hearld-Sun stating that the paper had called all cab companies serving Durham (I think they said 12 companies) and none had a record of this trip.

711 posted on 04/19/2006 12:04:11 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: Carling

Like I said earlier...It seems whenever the facts get in the way of her story, Crystal invents new theories to justify her version of things...


712 posted on 04/19/2006 12:04:13 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Howlin
I thought the bathroom was the alleged scene?
713 posted on 04/19/2006 12:04:44 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Howlin

I'm getting angrier by the minute!

The other DNA results that are supposed to be released "any minute"....will the defense get those results like the did the other?


714 posted on 04/19/2006 12:05:40 PM PDT by Jrabbit (Kaufman County, Texas)
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To: GallopingGhost
and tells players she is going to tell police they raped her.

That is exactly what was on all the Duke/Durham forums when this first happened.

715 posted on 04/19/2006 12:06:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: LK44-40

I made the same mistake. There are over 30 cab companies that serve the Durham area; they skillfully said "all the companies we contacted did not give the ride". Anyway, apparently the AP corroborated the story by interviewing the ACTUAL cab driver, who remebered them because of a good tip and some good smelling food. Check it out upthread.


716 posted on 04/19/2006 12:07:27 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: maggief

A search of Finnerty's dorm room Tuesday, however, was a clear sign that the investigation is rapidly continuing. A resident assistant told WRAL that Durham police investigators searched Seligmann’s and Finnerty's rooms at Edens 2C Residence Hall for two hours Tuesday night.

Sources tell WRAL that the officers were looking for Finnerty's computer and that they seized several undisclosed items.


http://www.wral.com/news/8820200/detail.html


717 posted on 04/19/2006 12:08:20 PM PDT by maggief ( ... and YOU know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: Carling
I may be wrong on this, but he theoretically can sit on them until after the election if he pleases

No, he cannot.

He has to notify the players whose DNA was tested; by law.

And since he got those indicttments yesterday, the clock has started ticking: NC is an open files discovery case; they are entitled to everything he has. Yesterday.

718 posted on 04/19/2006 12:08:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: LK44-40
Now that you mention it, I remember somebody posting an exerpt from the Hearld-Sun stating that the paper had called all cab companies serving Durham (I think they said 12 companies) and none had a record of this trip.

That's great and all, but the H-S said the 12 companies they contacted. A FReeper in Durham (I think) pointed out that he did a quick Yellow Page search and found at least 30 cab companies that serve the Durham area. Also, there is a cab driver who gave a written deposition to defense lawyers saying he remembers picking up the guys and bring them to a fast-food joint before bringing them to campus.

He's probably in on it too. /sar

719 posted on 04/19/2006 12:09:14 PM PDT by Carling (It's Danny, Sir)
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To: connectthedots

I do not know......that would be cool!


720 posted on 04/19/2006 12:09:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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