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Apple unveils software to permit Windows use
Yahoo! and Reuters ^ | Wednesday April 5, 10:27 am ET

Posted on 04/05/2006 8:15:14 AM PDT by Swordmaker

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Apple Computer Inc. (NasdaqNM:AAPL - News), the maker of the Macintosh computer and iPod music device, on Wednesday rolled out a first-ever software patch to run Microsoft's dominant Windows operating system on its PCs, a move that could draw millions of new buyers.

By enabling the move to Windows, the world's No. 1 operating system, Apple hopes to draw people who want Macs, considered by many as easier to use and more stylish, but prefer the Windows operating system.

Apple shares rose 5.7 percent in early trade on Nasdaq.

Apple said the "Boot Camp" software, available immediately as a download, enables Macs powered by Intel Corp. (NasdaqNM:INTC - News) chips to run either Windows XP or Apple's Mac OS operating system software.

Apple's rivals Dell Inc. (NasdaqNM:DELL - News) and Hewlett-Packard Co. (NYSE:HPQ - News) primarily use Microsoft Corp.'s (NasdaqNM:MSFT - News) Windows software.

"We think Boot Camp makes the Mac even more appealing to Windows users considering making the switch," said Philip Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, in a statement."

In addition, with the patch, Macintosh users will now likely be able to run some games and other software on their Mac OS X computers without buying a separate Windows based computer.

The final version of Boot Camp will be available as a feature in the upcoming Mac OS X version 10.5 "Leopard" personal computer. Apple said it will not provide support for installing or running Boot Camp and does not sell or support Microsoft Windows software.

Cupertino, California-based Apple said last June it would shift to microprocessors made by Intel, the world's biggest chipmaker, from those made by International Business Machines Corp. (NYSE:IBM - News). It plans to move its entire Macintosh line to Intel chips by the end of 2007.

The stock was up $3.48 to $64.65 on Nasdaq.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; osx; windowsxp
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To: Swordmaker
Excerpt from Walt Mossberg's review of Boot Camp in the Wall Street Journal -

I've been testing Windows on a new iMac for several days, and, except for a couple of trifling annoyances, it runs perfectly, just like a stand-alone Windows PC. I was able to install Boot Camp, and Windows XP Pro, on the Mac in under an hour. After that, I installed 15 Windows programs, most unavailable in Mac versions, and all ran properly.

In Windows mode, the iMac was blazingly fast -- far faster than my two year old H-P Windows computer. And every function of Windows I tested, including Web browsing, email, and music playback, ran flawlessly.


21 posted on 04/05/2006 10:55:35 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Sweet! Go AAPL!


22 posted on 04/05/2006 11:59:19 AM PDT by cmsgop ( I love Scotch. .......Scotchy, Scotch, Scotch)
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To: cmsgop

It appears that one component of Boot Camp is a firmware update to add legacy BIOS support to the EFI boot system. That could open some interesting possibilities for booting Linux, Solaris, etc.


23 posted on 04/05/2006 12:16:12 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: stuartcr
So what is the big difference to a user, between a Mac running Windows OS and a PC running Windows OS?

My thoughts exactly. The Mac OS X software is what makes the Mac so appealing to some.

24 posted on 04/05/2006 12:22:03 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Pain is nothing. Pain is weakness leaving the body.)
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To: Swordmaker

25 posted on 04/05/2006 3:55:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: HAL9000

Shiller is right

I'm doing some work in a regulated space that requires all sorts of virus and security software to access this secure net via a VPN. I will not load this on my Mac OS X, So I just boot up WIndoz when I need to access their network - although a VM would be better than dual boot. I bet that is next.


26 posted on 04/05/2006 4:24:08 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: HAL9000
This is a brilliant strategy for Apple to win customers who want to try a Mac while preserving their investment in Windows software. Those folks can eventually dump Microsoft products after a gradual transition to the superior Mac OS X system.

I've been wanting Apple to dump IBM for Intel for years, so these opportunities would present themselves. But this is a high barrier to entry - a whole new computer - which few people actually "need" right now. Which is why I wold be selling OSX for Dell etc instead (which may eventually come out).

Take me as an example. I don't need a new computer till much later this year or early next, so I won't even consider this for myself til then. However, if they had announced an version of OSX I could run on my fairly new laptop, I would have pre-ordered it today.

Apple just wants the profits from both the hardware AND the software, and want to lock the consumer in. Fine by me, I still might buy one because it's an outstanding product, although I do have some questions about Al Gore still being there etc.

27 posted on 04/05/2006 4:33:36 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
But this is a high barrier to entry - a whole new computer - which few people actually "need" right now.

Nobody "needs" Windows malware either, but today's announcement will give customers the perception that they can escape the problems associated with Windows and make a graceful transition to a better OS. (Of course, they will be opening themselves to Windows malware by using Boot Camp - but the perception holds.)

Which is why I wold be selling OSX for Dell etc instead (which may eventually come out).

That could happen - when hardware becomes a zero-profit business.

28 posted on 04/05/2006 5:31:15 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
Nobody "needs" Windows malware either

Good point! Hopefully Apple can keep it at bay.

That could happen - when hardware becomes a zero-profit business.

Companies like Apple will never let that happen. The best will never be free, else it couldn't be the best.

29 posted on 04/05/2006 6:16:31 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Sunnyflorida

could you explain what VPM and VM mean?


30 posted on 04/05/2006 6:25:55 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: Swordmaker

Extra branch in Apple's tech support phone tree will ask callers, "If you are calling to speak to Bill Gates, or regarding any of Microsoft's products, please dial five now."

Dialing five will only repeat that over and over again until the caller realizes that calling Apple to speak to Bill Gates or to ask for help for a Microsoft product is silly.


31 posted on 04/05/2006 7:28:56 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: HAL9000
This is a brilliant strategy for Apple to win customers who want to try a Mac while preserving their investment in Windows software. Those folks can eventually dump Microsoft products after a gradual transition to the superior Mac OS X system.

Yes, indeed. In my opnion, this is what this action is all about.

32 posted on 04/05/2006 7:43:06 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Swordmaker

Now my purchase of a new system this summer got more complicated.


33 posted on 04/05/2006 7:45:58 PM PDT by birbear (I took an IQ test and I flunked it of course. I can't spell VW, but I drive a Porsche.)
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To: ontos-on
could you explain what VPM and VM mean?

Allow me.

VPM is Virtual Private Network... a protocol that allows you to tunnel through the internet from a home or other office to a computer or network at a remote location as though your computer were local to the server.

VM is Virtual Machine... the ability of a computer to run "alien" code (say WindowsXP on a OS X Mac or vice verse) natively in a window of the hosting OS.

The closest to transparent I have ever seen this was the VM ability of the Amiga (680X0) to run Apple Mac (OS 7 & 8, also 680X0) in an emulation window in AmigaOS... and it actually ran faster on the Amiga than the equivalent Mac OS did on a similarly clocked Mac by about 4 or 5 percent.

A truely VM ability would have the software for the host OS and the guest OSes running as fast as they would on native stand alone machines.

34 posted on 04/05/2006 8:35:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Companies like Apple will never let that happen. The best will never be free, else it couldn't be the best.

It could happen. Apple cannot dictate the market conditions that determine the competitive price for computer hardware. If the other PC manufacturers get into a major price war, Apple would certainly be affected too. Profit margins on hardware are already slim, so it would be difficult to maintain current levels.

For the past few years, Dell has been selling zero-profit hardware to consumers as part of their marketshare growth strategy. They make their profits by selling to businesses.

If the hardware industry becomes unprofitable, Apple may decide to become a software-only company. That is a viable option, since they've switched to Intel processors. They could have a very strong business just selling Mac OS X and Mac applications to all x86-based customers. In his closing remarks at the Apple Developer Conference last year where the Intel change was announced, Steve Jobs clearly emphasized that the centerpiece of Apple's strategy is Mac OS X - not hardware.

Dell and Gateway, on the other hand, don't have any products to offset decreasing hardware profit margins. They don't own an operating system or any notable software products.

For now, Apple is making excellent profits by selling a mix of hardware and software products. That mix could change in the future - but I expect Apple will continue to be a computer industry leader for decades to come.

35 posted on 04/05/2006 10:03:15 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HangnJudge

I'm now beginning to think that Apple will eventually ditch the Intel-based Mac OS in favor of Windows.

Now why would I want to buy a Mac computer and use the less-secure Windows XP instead of the more-secure Mac OSX? It just doesn't add up.

Hell, I don't even use Windows on my X86 computers. I have Xandros Linux installed on my 1.4GHz laptop and on my 2.4GHz desktop. And I can still use iTunes on Xandros using Crossover Office. That's the only way I can listen to Alex Jones' radio show on the internet (I tried installing Linspire's LSongs on here, but it didn't install).


36 posted on 04/05/2006 11:05:34 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("HYAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean; Xandros - Linux Made Easy)
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To: King of Florida

As much as I disliked the Tramiels back in the day for shelving the Atari 7800 in 1984 and lots of empty promises with the Lynx and Jaguar, I have to admit that they put out some decent Jackintoshes, I mean Atari STs (Jackintosh was slang for the Atari ST because the ST and the Mac were based on the Motorola MC68000 processor, and Atari was owned by Jack Tramiel). And their 8-bit computers (especially the Atari XE Game System) were really nice.

Of course the thing I'll always be grateful to Jack Tramiel for is the Commodore 64. That little 64K beige and brown computer gave me years of use...I used to have a 1200 baud modem for it.


37 posted on 04/05/2006 11:10:39 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("HYAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean; Xandros - Linux Made Easy)
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To: Swordmaker

bump


38 posted on 04/06/2006 6:27:19 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: ontos-on
"could you explain what VPM and VM mean?'

Sorry VPM should be VPN. VPN stands for Virtual Private Network. If you have a home/business network that is not connected to the outside world it is called a Private Network. If you want to extend this network over a public network like the internet you use what is called VPN technology. The private network packets are encapsulated by the VPN technology and encrypted. To the remote VPN user the private office network can be accessed as if it is local and to the other users of the public network they cannot "see" the private network. The Private Network I wish to access needs requires certain PC software (security). I maybe able to find a Mac version of this but I do not what to load this crap on to my personal Mac. Plus I do not want the adminstratiors of this private network any access to my private stuff on my Mac. Dual boot would work but a VM would be better.

VM stands for Virtual Machine. Virtual machine technology uses software to pretend it is hardware. Typically VM software technology allows more than one Virtual Computer to run at the same time on one real physical computer with the extra feature of allowing the user to bounce back and forth between the multiple machines.

Some Mac users are familiar with a product called Virtual PC. I have in on my Mac and I actually run a virtual PC with Windows2000 in a Mac Window. The performance is not great because Virtual PC must emulate all the hardware of a normal PC plus it must emulate the Intel instruction set. There is some thought that on the Intel Macs performance will be much better.
39 posted on 04/06/2006 9:43:50 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Swordmaker

Swordman, Good.


40 posted on 04/06/2006 9:45:00 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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