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Sexless and Proud - Asexuals Say They're Misunderstood in a Sex-Obsessed World
ABC News ^ | 3/23/06

Posted on 03/23/2006 11:42:25 AM PST by iPod Shuffle

ABC News

Sexless and Proud

Asexuals Say They're Misunderstood in a Sex-Obsessed World

March 23, 2006 — - David Jay has had plenty of girlfriends. But despite the 23-year-old Californian's success in dating, he's a virgin -- and he plans to stay that way. He's not joining the priesthood or taking any vow of celibacy; he said he simply has no interest in having sex -- ever.

"I'm sure that life is really, really great when it's all about sex. But life is also really, really great when it's not about sex," he told "20/20's" JuJu Chang.

Keith Walker of Texas was married for four years, but said he had sex only a handful of times. "I really had no real interest or desire for sex. It was certainly nothing that I would ever think to do."

Nancy Mulligan, a divorcee from Washington state, said her seven-year marriage was never consummated. "We did other things. We'd watch out for each other. We were affectionate with each other," she said.

Victoria Glancy and Karl Hodgetts are preparing for that sort of marriage with their summer wedding. They're prepared to live happily but sexlessly ever after.

"I don't really see any difference between our relationship and other people's relationships, except you know, we don't have sex," Glancy said. No Libido -- No Problem

Who are these people? From different ages and walks of life, they share one thing in common -- not low libido -- no libido. They call themselves "asexual" and they proclaim that they are not attracted to men or women.

David Jay said his lack of libido is nothing new. He said he's never experienced attraction -- to either sex. "I realized that I was asexual because when I was young, all of my friends started being attracted to people, and I had no idea what they were talking about," he said.

It was the same way for Nancy Mulligan, who felt isolated for years. "I thought I was the only one in the world. I had just kind of settled into the rut that I was different and decided to do the best I could with it," she said.

But now asexuals are building a community through a Web site -- asexuality.org. It has chat rooms, sells T-shirts and claims it has 6,000-plus members worldwide.

Jay is the Web site's founder, and the leader of what some call a new asexuality movement. He explains what's behind the group. "We're told that you need sex to be happy. We're told that the rules are that if you have a relationship, sex has to fit into it this way. And it's kind of fun to break that rule," he said.

Asexuality Is 'Not a Choice'

But some experts question if asexuality even exists. There's been virtually no research on the subject. Psychologists disagree on how to define it. And there's no certainty on what might influence it. Do hormones, genetics, personal experiences play a part? With no clinical or scientific conclusions on the subject, asexuals create their own definition.

And that definition is a far cry from celibacy, Jay pointed out. "It's not a choice. Celibacy is a choice, whereas asexuality is just the way that you are. Much like being gay is not a choice, or being straight or being right-handed," he said.

Some studies show that asexual behavior does exist in the animal world. Dr. Anthony Bogaert of Brock University in Ontario, Canada, who has conducted one of the few studies of human asexuality said he found as much as 1 percent of the population may be asexual.

"They may still have physiological arousal experiences, vaginal lubrication, erections, but they may not be able to, or [connect] that arousal to men, women or both," Bogaert said.

Living without that connection can be a challenge in a world fixated on sex.

"What I mind is when the idea gets enforced that people need sex. That without sex, you're somehow broken. And of course, we can be happy without sex," Jay said. Sex Therapist Questions Label

But Joy Davidson, a certified sex therapist, believes Jay and his fellow asexuals may be shortchanging themselves with the asexual label.

"Sex is a fabulous, enormously pleasurable aspect of life. And your saying you don't miss it is like someone in a sense who's color blind saying, 'I don't miss color.' Of course, you don't miss what you've never had," Davidson said.

Davidson cited a litany of factors that may be at the root of an asexual life.

"There may be something, maybe something physiological, endocrine, maybe something that has to do with trauma, or abuse, or repression, or severe religiosity, that has predisposed you to shutting down the possibility of being sexually engaged," she said.

But the asexuals Chang spoke with for "20/20" said they're perfectly happy as they are. They said they're used to people questioning their identity. They've even questioned it themselves. For years Victoria Glancy, who wasn't attracted to men, assumed she was a lesbian.

"I have slept with a couple of women, and it was just sort of, 'Oh, well, OK, we've done that now, so we don't have to ever do it again, right,'" she said.

Glancy ultimately decided that she's asexual -- a label Davidson has called problematic.

"You might as well label yourself not curious, unadventurous, narrow-minded, blind to possibilities. That's what happens when you label yourself as sexually neutered," Davidson said.

Some Asexuals Can Have a Change of Heart

Jay said his group is not trying to paint anyone into a corner. "The thing about the asexual community is that we're not a place people come to to stop exploring themselves. We don't want to slap a label on people and then have that confine them," he said.

It's true that even the most vocal asexuals can have a change of heart. To their astonishment, Victoria Glancy and her fiancé, Karl Hodgetts, recently discovered that their passions under the covers had been ignited.

Glancy said she and Hodgetts had been getting very close to having sex recently. And Hodgetts is open to that possibility. "I just feel completely comfortable with Victoria. I don't think I've ever felt so comfortable with someone. And so I'm willing to, you know, try things," he said.

So are Glancy and Hodgetts just ammunition for critics who say asexuals simply haven't found the right partners for themselves?

That doesn't matter to Glancy, because, she said, there's a possibility she won't want to have sex — or have it more than once.

"I could have sex with Karl one time and go, 'Oh, OK, saw what that was like,' and then not like it," she said.

At first, Glancy said, she felt a bit uncomfortable acknowledging her sexual attraction to her fiancé.

"When we were first kind of fooling around, and I'm like, 'Oh, I'm not supposed to like this.' But then that's stupid. I mean, you're just are who you are," she told Chang.

Although they hadn't yet had sex when Chang spoke with them, Glancy and Hodgetts removed themselves from the asexuality Web site. For the remaining members, giving voice to asexuality is still a proud mission.

Chang asked Jay: "If I had a pill that I could give you to make you sexual, would you want it?"

"I would not take a pill to become a sexual person. I'm having way too much fun as an asexual person," he said.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: asexual; asexuality; crevolist; grandmaster; intercourse; libido; losers; mywife; sex; sexless; sexual; sexuality; virgin
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To: Unmarked Package

Thanks. I just didn't have time to look up the reference myself.


61 posted on 03/23/2006 12:46:19 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: day10

Pretty Much!


62 posted on 03/23/2006 12:46:32 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
You never heard him say this did you?

"It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. It does this whenever it's told."

63 posted on 03/23/2006 12:49:17 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I think you are confusing asexual with androgynous.


64 posted on 03/23/2006 12:52:05 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Redcloak
So what kind of "Hey everyone! Look at me!!!" bumper stickers do asexuals put on their cars? A rainbow flag in shades of gray?

They were gonna make a special flag, but they couldn't get it up.

SD

65 posted on 03/23/2006 12:55:29 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Dumb_Ox
Vaguely related question: Does "consumation" mean anything anymore in marital law?

Sure as heck does in canon (Church) law. A "marriage" of seven years with no consummation would be null.

SD

66 posted on 03/23/2006 12:58:10 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Redcloak
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67 posted on 03/23/2006 1:01:52 PM PST by baker_girl (I'm an Aunt! Woo Hoo!)
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To: iPod Shuffle
I'm 44 and I love my life. I work hard at the post office, and have lots of hobbies to keep me busy like travel, radio, computer stuff, politics, writing, cartoons, and more. I'm asexual but that doesn't mean I don't have other people to love who love me back.

I just celebrated my 25th anniversary as a college radio DJ with a big huge celebration--bands playing, food, and friends and family to embrace me. I have helped friends in their various endeavors, sharing my knowledge and enthusiasm.

I'm asexual and happy with my life ("married to my hobbies"). Sorry if that disappoints anyone.


68 posted on 03/23/2006 1:02:34 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Hoodlum91

LOL...this could get fun!


69 posted on 03/23/2006 1:02:41 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR)
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To: SoothingDave
They were gonna make a special flag, but they couldn't get it up.

LOL...

70 posted on 03/23/2006 1:04:26 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR)
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To: iPod Shuffle



Oh my, if I'm gonna put up with all the crap that comes with marriage you can bet I'm gonna get sex out of the deal.


71 posted on 03/23/2006 1:05:18 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: pcottraux

Those cats have some huge mouths.


72 posted on 03/23/2006 1:05:38 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR)
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To: iPod Shuffle

With some of the choices out there, I almost don't blame these people for passing on sex. I do find it hard to believe that the males don't somewhere in the back of their minds wish they could find someone decent and the females wish they could find someone rich (and brutish).

parsy, the cynical.


73 posted on 03/23/2006 1:09:44 PM PST by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: Hoodlum91
I guess if you're asexual...this really is just for chocolate milk...


74 posted on 03/23/2006 1:10:16 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR)
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To: Redcloak
So what kind of "Hey everyone! Look at me!!!" bumper stickers do asexuals put on their cars? A rainbow flag in shades of gray?

Answer:

75 posted on 03/23/2006 1:21:26 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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To: RockinRight

LOL! . . . snort . . . LOL!


76 posted on 03/23/2006 1:22:28 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Redcloak

>>So what kind of "Hey everyone! Look at me!!!" bumper stickers do asexuals put on their cars?

I won't put anything on mine. I don't push it in people's
faces...it's simply what I am. Don't worry, I won't try to
convert anyone.


77 posted on 03/23/2006 1:25:18 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Millee
Nancy Mulligan, a divorcee from Washington state, said her seven-year marriage was never consummated. "We did other things. We'd watch out for each other. We were affectionate with each other," she said.

As my husband and I are growing older, and as we've had chats about self-control and purity with our sons, it has occurred to me that the day may (realistically will) come when the illness or death of one of us will put an end to the sexual activity of the other. The world does hold many wonderful experiences, and if I were widowed -- or if my husband were ill or simply away from home -- I could find plenty to occupy, amuse and distract me, but the desire would most likely remain and at times be acutely painful. In that case, asexuality sounds attractive. How difficult is it to abstain from something which gives no pleasure?

But for a healthy man and woman never to consummate a marriage relationship? I can't express it without sounding silly or profane, and I consider sex in that context to be both wondrous and holy. Let me just say when they use the phrase "better than sex," it's because sex is the standard by which all physical pleasure is measured. To exercise self-control for a noble purpose is admirable, but these people truly have no clue what they are missing, and I pity them.

78 posted on 03/23/2006 1:31:23 PM PST by Chanticleer (Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready. T. Roosevelt)
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To: SoothingDave

rofl


79 posted on 03/23/2006 1:39:27 PM PST by Chanticleer (Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready. T. Roosevelt)
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To: Chanticleer

Agreed & well stated.


80 posted on 03/23/2006 2:08:58 PM PST by Millee (Don't make me get out my voodoo doll out!)
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