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1 posted on 03/08/2006 5:45:02 PM PST by llevrok
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To: defconw

ping


2 posted on 03/08/2006 5:45:26 PM PST by llevrok (The answer is often in the question.)
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To: llevrok

Note to all Port Deal Hysterics. CFR, Education Bill and RX Medicare bill all polled really well too. Stupidity that polls well is still stupid.


3 posted on 03/08/2006 5:46:36 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Why yes, yes it IS sarcasam!)
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To: llevrok
So I guess the concept of respectfully disagreeing isn't part of the administration-loyalist handbook?
4 posted on 03/08/2006 5:49:06 PM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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To: holdonnow

Ping


5 posted on 03/08/2006 5:50:12 PM PST by llevrok (The answer is often in the question.)
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To: llevrok

Oh give me a break!

Reagan wasn't a lame duck even when he had his veto overridden with help from members of his own party. Bush certainly isn't one just because one house of Congress passed something he's threatened to veto.


6 posted on 03/08/2006 5:51:49 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: llevrok
No President ever won all the political battles.

It is interesting that his point was we had bases and cooperation from Saudi Arabia.
It is even more interesting that we used Muslim and Arab profiling to deny this deal.

So when are the Democrats now going to allow us to check all the proper profiled people at the airport and not samples of only everyone?
10 posted on 03/08/2006 5:54:03 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: llevrok

Reagan's 11th Commandment - Do not eat your own party.


12 posted on 03/08/2006 5:55:16 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: llevrok

Ridiculous satire. Actual title should be:

"Republicans toy among themselves over policy, Democrats beg for attention".


18 posted on 03/08/2006 5:58:14 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: llevrok

Me thinks you have written his obit a bit early! Misunderestimated one more time!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


31 posted on 03/08/2006 6:07:23 PM PST by bray (Proud Bushbot for 6 years going on 8!)
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To: llevrok

You could've at least had the courtesy to post this over in Chat.


34 posted on 03/08/2006 6:11:11 PM PST by prairiebreeze (The Old Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: llevrok; dinok

[llevrok: I agree with your basic premise; I wrote the following for the dinoks at FR!]


Given the hysterical rantings from both the left and right concerning the current political viability (and legacy) of President George W Bush, I think it’s time for some historical PERSPECTIVE!

Since many at FR, and around the radio dial, like nothing more than to bash GWB with the record of President Ronald Reagan, I will use the former president as our historical benchmark:

RONALD REAGAN
[NOTE: All ratings are based on Gallup surveys unless otherwise noted.]

Average Job Approval Rating:
RR: 53% (first 5 years: 52%)
GW: 60%

Number of Years With an Average JA Rating in the 40s or Below:
RR: 3 (first 5 years: 2)
GW: 1

Lowest JA Rating:
RR: 35%
GW: 37%
[Keep in mind that GWB is the first war-time president since FDR to run for and win re-election! Truman, LBJ, and Bush 41 all had JA ratings in the 20s at the end of their tenure!]

Highest JA Rating:
RR: 68% (shortly after assassination attempt)
GW: 90% (shortly after 9/11)

During both 1982 and 1983, President Reagan posted an average JA rating of 44% . . . MANY Republicans wanted Reagan ‘to retire’ so that they could nominate a more POLITICALLY VIABLE candidate in 1984. Reagan declined. However, Republicans/conservatives continued to wring their hands about 'polls’ that predicted Reagan would lose the election to, among others, Gary Hart. The hand wringing didn’t abate until Hart self-destructed in the spring of 1984!

President Reagan won his re-election in a landslide and coasted to high JA ratings during 1985 and most of 1986 . . . and then he experienced a political tsunami -- the Election debacle of 1986 (he lost the Senate), the explosion of the Iran-Contra scandal, and the borking of Judge Bork.

The following article describes the fall-out:


Title: “The Reagan Presidency Fades Into Its Twilight”

“It was vintage Reagan: flinty-eyed, sure of his aces. The terse words evoked the “make my day” challenge he had once used to with Democratic talk of tax increases.

But this time it boomeranged. Bork’s nomination quickly plunged toward a resounding and stunning defeat, and much of the commentary that followed had the pall of a post-mortem on Reagan’s political career.

This was not just any lost cause. It had been Reagan’s self-proclaimed “No. 1 domestic priority.” And it had been a cause that most thought Reagan could have won – should have won.

The label of “lame duck,” which some had tried to paste on Reagan just days after his landslide re-election in 1984, seemed at long last to stick. Reaganism, the dominant political force in America for the better part of a decade, now clearly seems to be a spent force.

. . . It’s variable when lame-duckism begins,” notes Nelson W. Polsby, professor of political science at UC Berkeley, “With Reagan, you would have thought it would be later. But it began with Iran-contra.”

FOLLOWING REVELATIONS OF ARMS SALES TO IRAN (and the diversion of resulting profits to aid the contras), REAGAN’S GALLUP POLL RATINGS TOOK A 23-POINT NOSE DIVE. IT WAS SAID TO BE THE MOST PRECIPITOUS DECLINE IN A PRESIDENT’S APPROVAL RATING SINCE GALLUP BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS.

. . . Iran-contra may have permanently broken Reagan’s unique grip on the American imagination . . . (however) the more structural setback to his power was his party’s net loss of eight seats in the Senate election of 1986 which turned the upper chamber Democratic.

The Senate elections took on a personal dimension because Reagan had stumped for GOP incumbents as few presidents before him. He all but pleaded with his traditional backers to “win one more for the Gipper” and, in so doing, preserve his beachhead on Capitol Hill.

. . . For some, THE MEAN SEASON BEGAN FOR REAGAN EVEN BEFORE THE SENATE DEBACLE. THEY POINT TO THE OCTOBER 1986 SUMMIT MEETING IN REYKJAVIK, ICELAND, WHERE REAGAN APPEARED UTTERLY UNPREPARED FOR THE CHALLENGE PRESENTED BY THE NEW SOVIET LEADER, MIKHAIL S. GORBACHEV. [Note: Conservatives, e.g., William Buckley et al, attacked Reagan relentlessly on this issue!]

. . . (Bottomline) the administration will muddle through 1988 in much the same mode as it has through the past year (1987). The constraining circumstances of Democratic strength in Congress, the diversion of attention to the choice of a new president and the sheer old-news nature of the Reagan presidency will conspire to devalue the White House coin.”
-- CQ Weekly October 17, 1987


INITIAL POST MORTEMS ON THE REAGAN PRESIDENCY:

GALLUP’S PRE-REPUBLICAN CONVENTION POLL
8/10-12/1992
Presidential Approval Ratings for Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter:
Reagan: 47.55% approve 49.21% (-1.66)
Carter.: 49.50% approve 43.06 disapprove (+6.44)
[Yep, one of the worst presidents in American history actually outpolled RR a mere 4 years after the end of RR's HISTORIC presidency and a mere 12 years after RR had defeated him in a landslide!]

SIX MONTHS LATER (February 1993):
Looking back, do you think the economic policies of Ronald Reagan were a success or a failure?
Success 28.72% Failure 61.24% (-32.48)


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! The more things change the more they stay the same!

It took the American public almost 20 years to appreciate the legacy of Ronald Reagan (a man many, including conservatives, savaged during his historic presidency). The same will happen for George W Bush!




35 posted on 03/08/2006 6:11:19 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: llevrok

[yawn]


52 posted on 03/08/2006 6:49:53 PM PST by mhking (Snakes -- On A Plane!)
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To: llevrok
Every political opponent who pronounced the political death of President Bush has ended up in his own political grave. You are largely underestimating President Bush, you will find out how wrong you were withing few months. For the moment enjoy the short and fake victory.
65 posted on 03/09/2006 8:10:29 AM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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LOL, right-wing martyrdom, tried and true for 30 years!
67 posted on 03/09/2006 8:14:26 AM PST by roses of sharon
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