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100-Mile-Long Wall in Africa [Sungbo's Eredo]
Science Frontiers ^
| March/April 2000
| William R. Corliss
Posted on 03/04/2006 7:38:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv
Sungbo's Eredo, as it is called, is really an earthen embankment with an accompanying ditch. Whatever you call it, it does enclose an area 25 miles north-to-south and 22 miles east-to-west. That's a lot of earth-moving, for at some spots the "wall" measures 70 feet from the bottom of the ditch to the top of the embankment. Today, this impressive structure is mostly concealed by the Nigerian jungle. A thousand years ago it enclosed a flourishing African kingdom.
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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: africa; antoninewall; devilsdyke; gaskridge; germanlimes; godsgravesglyphs; hadrianswall; nigeria; offasdyke; sungboseredo; wansdyke; watsdyke
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posted on
03/04/2006 7:38:31 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
[African Legacy - School of Conservation Sciences, Bournemouth University]
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posted on
03/04/2006 7:40:09 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
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posted on
03/04/2006 7:41:51 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
03/04/2006 7:50:15 PM PST
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blam
To: SunkenCiv
Very interesting, thanks!
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posted on
03/04/2006 8:20:13 PM PST
by
Emmalein
(Try not to let your mind wander...It is too small and fragile to be out by itself.)
To: blam
A lot of work. To keep out KONG!
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posted on
03/04/2006 8:20:14 PM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
To: Mike Darancette
"To keep out KONG!" For sure!
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posted on
03/04/2006 8:24:24 PM PST
by
blam
To: blam
Very much so. It's surprising how many times that got done, by hand (or perhaps with the help of beasts of burden), here and there. Corliss reproduces a map of western England/eastern Wales to show the route of Offa's Dyke, which is attributed to Offa of Mercia. There's an earlier, apparently much shorter work called Wat's Dyke that antedates Offa's; there's also the post-Roman Wansdyke, which runs west to east across a good bit of southern England, and a very short (probably unfinished) earth barrier called Devil's Dyke, also post-Roman. Ooh, I just took another look at the map, and it doesn't show Offa's Dyke, but that's what's discussed above it.
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posted on
03/04/2006 8:39:30 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
03/04/2006 9:04:05 PM PST
by
blam
To: SunkenCiv
Is there any chance we can get them to build a similar wall on our Southern and Northern borders?
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posted on
03/04/2006 9:41:18 PM PST
by
albee
("Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boot that kicks them!" - Eric Hoffer)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
03/05/2006 3:13:41 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: BenLurkin; blam
Ah, here's something I put together for another forum circa 2000:
Here are four major earthen barriers, listed longest to shortest, and there may be more. Offa's Dyke was constructed by King Offa of Mercia... Alfred the Great of Wessex is regarded as the first king of all England. Offa preceded Alfred the Great by a century or so, and attempted a similar unification. Offa also conducted overseas diplomacy, and constructed this earthwork and pallisade that ran along most of the border with the Welsh kingdoms. It was longer than Hadrian's Wall.
Wat's Dyke is two or three centuries older than Offa's Dyke and was constructed by the post-Roman kingdom of Wroxeter. Because it runs along a parallel course for part of its length it was once regarded as, and still frequently misidentified, as a later construction by the Kingdom of Mercia, or a response to Offa's Dyke. It isn't. This one is part of the middle ages, but may have been built when memory of the Roman occupation was still living.
The Wansdyke was the second longest post-Roman earthwork. I've seen it written that it was constructed to make it easier for cavalry to sally forth against attacking infantry, but this doesn't seem likely. It was constructed sufficiently long ago that no record of its construction remains, although it is definitely post-Roman, and it seems to be ambiguous whether it was meant to protect against the north or the south. Even its original length is difficult to determine, as is the question of whether it was completed or used. The name comes from the Germanic deity Woden - Woden's Dyke, due to its sheer size which amazed the invading Saxons - but this long construction is known by many names. Like Wat's Dyke, it is tied into the Arthurian legends, and one of the forts on its length takes its name from Ambrosius.
The Devil's Dyke refers to an earthen barrier almost seven miles long, apparently another remnant of a post-Roman kingdom. The name is also applied to a dry valley, a natural feature, which should show up in the search engine for you as it did for me.
The Grey Ditch is a short earthwork, not really in the same ballpark as the others, but it may have been incomplete because of an interruption (invasion?). All these earthworks are part of an ancient heritage of Europe which includes Glastonbury Tor, Maiden Castle, and similar structures on the continent. It would not surprise me to find that there are more of these post-Roman walls in Britain.
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03/05/2006 10:07:04 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Fiction has to make sense, unless it's part of the Dhimmicrat agenda and its supporting myth.)
To: SunkenCiv
Do you know, right off the top of your head, if Glastonbury Tor has been a topic of one of these GGG threads? I'll probably do a search sometime, when I have more time - it's something that intrigued me when I saw a photo a few years ago...
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posted on
03/06/2006 10:15:19 AM PST
by
Hegemony Cricket
(Rage is the fuel that powers the islamic machine)
To: Hegemony Cricket
I'm sure there has been, probably from the pre-Civ days at the very least.
Google
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posted on
03/06/2006 10:27:24 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
To: SunkenCiv
Have you ever read about the "Great Hedge of India" a colonial British effort? Interesting stuff.
To: Tijeras_Slim
Saw the book when it came out, but alas, it didn't tickle my fancy. :')
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03/06/2006 10:43:39 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
To: SunkenCiv
It wasn't very good, but those historical footnotes are worth chasing.
To: Hegemony Cricket
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posted on
03/06/2006 10:52:42 AM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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02/28/2010 6:50:07 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Freedom is Priceless.)
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Note: this topic is from 3/04/2006. The underlying story is from March 2000. I put up the updated ping message a couple of years ago. Anyway, I ran across it again, and it seemed like a good time to re-ping it, for those who missed it five years ago.
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01/02/2012 1:28:32 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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