[Bender2]

It would seem to be dead solid perfect that there is a bias against granting members of the Dallas Cowboys into the NFL Hall of Fame.

How else can Bob Hayes, Lee Roy Jordan, Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters or Rayfield Wright (to mention just a few) not be in the Hall?

Okay, Cowboy haters, take your shots...

[mainepatsfan]

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[Bender2]

Something for ya'll to chew on...

Just remember to chew with your mouth closed!

[BigCinBigD]

Yes there is.

[Colonel_Flagg]

It would seem to be dead solid perfect that there is a bias against granting members of the Dallas Cowboys into the NFL Hall of Fame.

I've had a bias against the Cowboys since Drew Pearson pushed off on Nate Wright in the 1975 NFC Championship Game :)

But that said, I am surprised that more Cowboys aren't in the Hall. We had the same problem with the Vikes, but since they won only one NFL championship and no Super Bowls, it's perhaps easier to understand.

It took nearly twenty years to get the NFL's all-time leading interceptor, Paul Krause, honored. It also took too long for Carl Eller (25 years) to get the honor that was his due. Fran Tarkenton also didn't get in on the first try, and since he revolutionized the quarterback position on the way to setting a number of records, that was a shame too. One of the best defensive tackles of all time, Alan Page, needed seven years.

[Allegra]

OK, somebody's got to say it:

Would you like some cheese with your....

OK. Since you're a friend, I won't say it. ;-)

[Allegra]

Okay, Cowboy haters, take your shots...

That would be me. OK, here's one I like:

HOUSTON TEXANS INAUGURAL NFL GAME, SEPTEMBER 8, 2002:
(That would be their first NFL game ever)

RELIANT STADIUM, HOUSTON

Houston - 19
Dallas - 10

I was there. It was sweet.

[Dog Gone]

"Yeah, of course people have had bias against the Cowboys ever since the America's Team [expletive]," says Sports Illustrated senior writer Paul Zimmerman, a longtime Hall voter.

Nobody seems to recall that "America's Team" was something bestowed on them by NFL Films, and wasn't something dreamed up by the team.

[big'ol_freeper]

"...only one other team has won as many championships (five)"

Um...WRONG!!

NFL history did not begin with the NFL expansion that included the Dallas Cowboys. Green Bay, Chicago, and NY Giants all have more NFL championships than the Cowboys. And the 49ers and Redskins have as many.

Most NFL Championships: Green Bay Packers 12, Chicago Bears 9, New York Giants 6, Dallas Cowboys 5, San Francisco 49ers 5, Washington Redskins 5, Cleveland Browns 4, Detroit Lions 4, Pittsburgh Steelers 4.

Source: NFL.com Packers Website

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

I'll take a shot:

"Yeah, of course people have had bias against the Cowboys ever since the America's Team [expletive]," says Sports Illustrated senior writer Paul Zimmerman, a longtime Hall voter.

When you named YOURSELF "America's Team", you pissed off a bunch of people. Seems like some of them still remember.

[F16Fighter]

"How else can Bob Hayes, Lee Roy Jordan, Chuck Howley, Cliff Harris, Charlie Waters or Rayfield Wright (to mention just a few) not be in the Hall?"

Cliff Harris and Charley Waters were mediocre safeties who benefited from a great the Dallas front seven.

Rayfield Wright is the only one on your list who could be considered "great."

Jordan, Howley, and Hayes were merely "good."

[JeffAtlanta]

The problem is that there are too many 1970's Steelers in the HOF. Like the 1970s Cincinati Reds, the electors have decided that merely playing for the 1970s Steelers should make the player worthy of being in the HOF.

The HOF is supposed to be for the super elite players (Montana, Walter Payton, Lawrence Taylor) and not just for pretty good players that were role players on a dynasty.

For example, compare how many 1980s 49ers or 1990s Cowboys in the HOF compared to the number of 1970s Steelers. It isn't even close.

I don't think that it is just a coincidence that both teams that have too many players in the HOF played in the same same era. The 1970s were when the traditional sports media was at it's height - it wasn't until the 80s that cable tv and other sources of entertainment became prominant.

To the orginal topic, I grew up a Dallas fan and I believe that they have almost exactly the number of players in the HOF that they should. The problem is that the selection process has been diluted and many players from other teams are in there that shouldn't be.

[Echo Talon]

Da Bears.. :D

[af_vet_rr]

Bob Hayes - drug problems. That did it for him (yeah, I know about Michael Irvin, but today's climate is different apparently - sucks to be Hayes).

[mhking]

I am no friend of the Cowboys, but I've got no problem with Aikman getting into the Hall...

[Wolfstar]

I love the Cowboys. Should be a bucketful of them in the hall.

[bert]

Hollywood has taught us that Cowboys have homosexual tendencies.

Queers are not allowed in the hall of fame

Thus no dallas guys.

[Maximus of Texas]

I think Lincoln Coleman should be in the Hall.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Perfect place for a tag change...