Posted on 01/22/2006 7:41:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv
The trauma some experience when their tests conflict with what they have always believed to be true has prompted some researchers to call for counseling to accompany the results. ... The adoption of new ancestral identities does not come so easy to everyone. Given her previous research, Lisa B. Lee, a black systems administrator in Oakland, Calif., was sure she would find a link to Africa when she submitted her father's DNA for testing. Family lore had it that his people were from Madagascar. But after tests at three companies, the results stubbornly reported that he shared genetic ancestry with Native Americans, Chinese and Sardinians. No Africa.
"What does this mean; who am I then?" said Ms. Lee, who was active in the Black Power movement of the 1960's. "For me to have a whole half of my identity to come back and say, 'Sorry, no African here.' It doesn't even matter what the other half says. It just negates it all." "Am I Sardinian?" she said. "Am I Chinese? Well that doesn't mean anything to me. It doesn't fit, it doesn't feel right."
DNA skeptics worry that there is a threatening side to the rise of DNA genealogy. Historically, associating human difference with genetic characteristics has had disastrous social consequences.....
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Mark Stoneking was part of the group which gave us mtDNA "studies" that "proved" (IOW, the conclusions matched the original assumptions) that all living humans descend from a single small group that left Africa at last within the past 200,000 years. Now he's part of the group which claims that humans had no clothes for a million years. Gee, and it's warm in Africa. I'll bet they have no axe to grind... ;')Why Humans and Their Fur Parted WaysDr. Stoneking, together with Dr. Ralf Kittler and Dr. Manfred Kayser, report in today's issue of Current Biology that they compared the DNA of human head and body lice from around the world, as well as chimpanzee lice as a point of evolutionary comparison. From study of the DNA differences, they find that the human body louse indeed evolved from the louse, as expected, but that this event took place surprisingly recently, sometime between 42,000 and 72,000 years ago. Humans must have been wearing clothes at least since this time.
by Nicholas Wade
New York Times
August 19, 2003
I'm not criticizing at all. I thought you would find it funny!
:')
LOL.... gee, how did they stay warm prior to that.
I would like to be on the genealogy ping list.
Thanks,
~Jessarah
Done!
Maybe if the stupid wench realized she was American she'd stop having any problems.
She must not realize that every male has only one Y chromosome he receives from his father. She could be almost completely African but somewhere along her father's line they had a non-African man throw his Y chromosome into the mix and that's the direct male line. Essentially it's looking at your father's father's father's father's father's...etc etc etc
:') That wouldn't work, because she has no Y chromosome. The X from her father came from his mother, and that grandmother got it from her father or mother... the autosomes (that's what they used to be called at any rate) are interesting, in that, since there are only 46 (23 pairs) in most people, of the 4thgreatgrandparents, at least 18 of them didn't make any genetic contribution at all. :'o
Whoops, I got distracted (I'm at work)... the autosomes are the 22 pairs that are not the X/Y, and those could come from all over... since we have 46... (and then continue with the above thought). ;')
I don't need a DNA test to tell me I'm a mutt.
I believe my ancestry to be English, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, Danish, etc., but what if it turns out I have French in me? Should I throw myself off a bridge? The various countries my ancestors procreated in doesn't change who I am.
>"Am I Sardinian?"
No way, Jose.
>I believe my ancestry to be English, Irish, Welsh, Dutch, Danish, etc.,
So, you're white like me.
What's a mutt?
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I hope not because I know I do. I have supressed most of it, but I do like cheese.
Hmm... the DNA from her father I assumed they tested on the Y chromosome. Else there'd be no point in not testing hers instead of his.
"Native Americans, Chinese and Sardinians."
There are a *lot* of people who are African-American by identification who have tribal American ancestry. And, as noted above, go back just 6 generations and 18 of the ancestors (at least!) drop out. Poof.
You know, a Heinz 57. A variety of different countries of ancestry all muddled together into a short, blue eyed redhead.
Blue eyes and red hairs - that's white.
Your point?
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