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"Love You, K2a2a, Whoever You Are"
New York Times ^ | January 22, 2006 | Amy Harmon

Posted on 01/22/2006 7:41:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv

The trauma some experience when their tests conflict with what they have always believed to be true has prompted some researchers to call for counseling to accompany the results. ... The adoption of new ancestral identities does not come so easy to everyone. Given her previous research, Lisa B. Lee, a black systems administrator in Oakland, Calif., was sure she would find a link to Africa when she submitted her father's DNA for testing. Family lore had it that his people were from Madagascar. But after tests at three companies, the results stubbornly reported that he shared genetic ancestry with Native Americans, Chinese and Sardinians. No Africa.

"What does this mean; who am I then?" said Ms. Lee, who was active in the Black Power movement of the 1960's. "For me to have a whole half of my identity to come back and say, 'Sorry, no African here.' It doesn't even matter what the other half says. It just negates it all." "Am I Sardinian?" she said. "Am I Chinese? Well that doesn't mean anything to me. It doesn't fit, it doesn't feel right."

DNA skeptics worry that there is a threatening side to the rise of DNA genealogy. Historically, associating human difference with genetic characteristics has had disastrous social consequences.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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Maybe DNA testing should be outlawed. But we'll keep the capital punishment and long jail terms for criminals.

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1 posted on 01/22/2006 7:41:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; StayAt HomeMother; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; asp1; ...
Thanks StayAt HomeMother!

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2 posted on 01/22/2006 7:41:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1560131/posts


3 posted on 01/22/2006 7:53:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Historically, associating human difference with genetic characteristics has had disastrous social consequences....."

Especially if you're in the Black Panthers and you're not Black. Hmmm. (Next, we'll check out the KKK, lol)

4 posted on 01/22/2006 8:04:10 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
"What does this mean; who am I then?" said Ms. Lee

I guess I would be hoping for too much for her to realize that she is an American...

These idiot liberals never cease to amaze me.

5 posted on 01/22/2006 8:06:42 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Pharmboy; CobaltBlue; hummingbird; Battle Axe; SunkenCiv

Maybe I *will* start up a "Genetic Genealogy Ping List".

Please send FReepmail if interested in being on one.


6 posted on 01/22/2006 8:09:00 AM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I guess I would be hoping for too much for her to realize that she is an American...

What's the old saying? You become the thing you hate. It's literally true in this case. Liberal race-division and baiting has left a terrible legacy in the U.S.A.

7 posted on 01/22/2006 8:14:14 AM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: blam; Future Snake Eater; martin_fierro; Bernard Marx
blam: (Next, we'll check out the KKK, lol)
I've heard that the DNA evidence suggests KKK members are descended from Byrds.
8 posted on 01/22/2006 8:18:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: SunkenCiv

*coffeespewoutnoseandthroughfingers*


9 posted on 01/22/2006 8:22:56 AM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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To: martin_fierro

:'D Just doin' my job. ;')

That tagline... great idea... binary ASCII could be a good way (for geeks) to post their email address in a public forum without having to worry about robotic address pimps.


10 posted on 01/22/2006 8:26:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Well I'll say it:

Lisa you ignorant slut!

Now, I feel better.

11 posted on 01/22/2006 8:36:07 AM PST by ForGod'sSake
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To: SunkenCiv; martin_fierro

Seems to me that genetic genealogy is a new science and there's just not enough data yet, although it's coming along quite nicely.

Syke's "Seven Daughters of Eve" was only published in 2001!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393020185/ref=dp_proddesc_2/104-9616745-9836707?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=507846&v=glance

I believe Sykes was the first one to offer to test your DNA and tell you about your deep ancestry -- for a fee.

When I first got on the Internet, it was said that the three biggest private uses were porn, investing, and genealogy. Seems like genealogy hasn't kept pace with the other two! It's pretty hard to push your genealogy back more than a couple hundred years using written records - so the genetic genealogy is very exciting.


12 posted on 01/22/2006 10:24:38 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Just a thought.OK here i go,she's 50% African at most?I haven't heard much about the reparations movement(scam)lately,but in her case would she be "pro-rated" according to the percentage of her african heritage?I read some time ago a payout of $1million(each)was discussed.$500k would still be a great payday for Ms.Lisa.Sounds fair to me.


13 posted on 01/22/2006 11:17:00 AM PST by Thombo2
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow, that would be confusing.


14 posted on 01/22/2006 11:36:30 AM PST by Dustbunny (As happy as a toad in the Lord's pocket.)
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To: martin_fierro
Maybe I *will* start up a "Genetic Genealogy Ping List".

Lately [especially on Louisiana/New Orleans threads, it seems] I am increasingly unlikely to distinguish satire from reality.   LOL

If you are serious about such a Ping List ... count me in.


15 posted on 01/22/2006 11:47:14 AM PST by caryatid (Jolie Blonde, 'gardez donc, quoi t'as fait ...)
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Behold!

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16 posted on 01/22/2006 12:34:31 PM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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To: martin_fierro

Wait! Now I'm signing up for GG pings from a GGG ping?? Heh!


17 posted on 01/22/2006 1:14:53 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (I don't think I'm half as good as I know I really am.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

I tell ya, you can't even *blink* around here.

< |:)~


18 posted on 01/22/2006 1:24:09 PM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://bancomicsans.com/


19 posted on 01/22/2006 2:32:14 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1179142/posts


20 posted on 01/22/2006 5:10:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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