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1 posted on 12/16/2005 4:23:32 PM PST by NYer
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It's time to dismantle the USCCB!

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2 posted on 12/16/2005 4:25:16 PM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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Oh, wait, it's called "Brokeback Mountain?" I've only heard about it on FR, and all this time I thought it was actually called "Bareback Mountain." LOL


3 posted on 12/16/2005 4:27:42 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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After several pro-life and pro-family websites strongly criticized the original review, the USCCB decided on Friday to change its classification, while still providing a very positive description of the film.

They gave the very same treatment to that pro-euthanasia film, Million Dollar Baby. It would be interesting to see how they'd treat a pro-life film, but, of course, there are no pro-life films.

4 posted on 12/16/2005 4:28:32 PM PST by madprof98
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Now, here we go again with these "cowboys" who do nothing more than heard sheep.

They're shepherds, and ask a rancher what he thinks about land that has had sheep on it.

Just goes to show you that being a cowboy equates to nothing more than wearing the right fashion accessories.

I know, I'm off topic. It's just now that this has dawned on me, though. They're just called cowboys because they're wearing a hat and boots. Hopefully designer, right?


5 posted on 12/16/2005 4:29:11 PM PST by CheyennePress
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Disappointing. Even though some of my favorite movies are rated O, like Mulholland Drive, I've always found the reviews to be no worse than useful and usually perceptive.


6 posted on 12/16/2005 4:29:26 PM PST by Generic_Login_1787
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Well, duh! Talking about having foot up (body cavity of your choice) disease...


7 posted on 12/16/2005 4:30:06 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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What the hell is a sheep herding cowboy?


8 posted on 12/16/2005 4:30:38 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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Weasels come popping out of the woodwork!

" This has been done because the serious weight of the L rating -- which restricts films in that category to those who can assess from a Catholic perspective the moral issues raised by a movie -- is, unfortunately, misunderstood by many."

What balony! Assessing from a Catholic perspective cannot mean anything other than pity and shame.

"Because, in this instance, there are some who are using the "L" rating to make it appear the Church -- or the USCCB -- position on homosexuality is ambiguous, the classification has been with revised specifically to address its moral content," says the new USCBB posting."

So, while the "many" are unable to assess the movie from a Catholic viewpoint, others, the "some" are attempting to make the movie if not affirmative of homosexuality, at least neutral? Who are the "some?" I don't believe anyone other than those in the USCCB office.

Dear USCCB,

At least stop playing us for fools. You either use this as a teaching opportunity to expand Christian understanding, or you forfeit your authority. Didn't one of the modern saints see bishops walking up a mountain some lacking heads, others asleep, and others just filthy?

You absolutely cannot hide now, or in the everafter. Teach, or be condemned. There aren't other choices.

Sincerely,

Opus


15 posted on 12/16/2005 4:35:24 PM PST by OpusatFR
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27 posted on 12/16/2005 4:40:11 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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It could have been worse. They could have been having sex with the sheep!


29 posted on 12/16/2005 4:42:06 PM PST by allis_chalmers_b
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USCCB aka navel gazers


31 posted on 12/16/2005 4:43:50 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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I have personally rated this kind of movie NG for a Long time. NG = NO GOOD" and as a result I refuse to go, to it, or other movies by the same organization and people (directors, etc., actors, etc.) Yeh, I save a fortune on movie costs, but why should I give my money to those who are so willing to not only offend me, but to assult my sense of desency. I say, "screw them all."
38 posted on 12/16/2005 4:49:33 PM PST by rundy
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Hollywood is TRULY DESPERATE for movie material.


46 posted on 12/16/2005 4:56:02 PM PST by EagleUSA
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>What makes me upset is when you go to Yahoo! Movies to check out this movie it doesn't list it a homosexual or gay. You have to do lots of digging on the Yahoo website to find out it is gay. Many people who rely on Yahoo for movie info are going to be in for a suprise.

Yahoo rates it as A-.

Yahoo! Movies Brokeback Mountain

48 posted on 12/16/2005 4:57:05 PM PST by bulldozer
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Cowboys do not herd sheep. Ever. Kids do, for 4H.


54 posted on 12/16/2005 5:05:08 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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I heard it was a case of Chester the Molester was just trying to push someone's stool in...


60 posted on 12/16/2005 5:11:19 PM PST by Issaquahking
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Well, at least they revised but it remains a very huge problem to me that they'd have had to revise their opinion, in that the original opinion was irrational, given the contents of this film.

This film's contents, homosexual acts aside, is comprised of two main characters who embody and live their entire lives based upon active and preconceived decreit, dishonesty, corruption and even violence (to and about others and to and about themselves). THEN there's the added offense of homosexual sexual behaviors.

I realize that liberals who are so enthused about this film reject conservative, Christian (and otherwise) complaints and offenses about this film but they (those who enthuse about the film) don't understand why: yes, it's offensive as to the homosexuality involved, but the characters are the antithesis of heroic and are quite entirely corrupt and even worse, seem very gratified by their corruption.


71 posted on 12/16/2005 5:23:10 PM PST by MillerCreek
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Turning this issue back upon these nonsensical (I'm being kind) "reviewers" here, what is it about the film that they find worthy? What, exactly, in essence, does this film offer that is even (remotely) worthy of enjoyment?

It's pornography with pretty hats. It's still pornography and that the two profess a relationship of lifelong proportions to one another, is meaningless since they do same to others throughout their lives. All of which they violate.

The film is just about active, homosexual sex. No organization of any type, particularly affiliated with the Catholic Church -- my God! -- has any shred of reason to even be writing about this film other than to call it the pornographic title that it is.

It's pornography about homosexuals who live their lives deceiving and lying and engaging in various acts of perversion the entire 'story' through. One gets murdered, the other one lies to his parents and his wife and everyone else.

The film's an adaptation, worse, from a terrible story written in idiot-script.


73 posted on 12/16/2005 5:30:42 PM PST by MillerCreek
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They are "sheep-herding cowboys"?

The more I hear about this film, the more offended I get. I can almost imagine how lonely cowboys with only steers and each other for companionship might make some bad decisions. But surrounded by sheep? It is just so unnecessary....;-)

81 posted on 12/16/2005 5:52:51 PM PST by LK44-40
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Pardon me, have any of you actually seen this movie? Fine, you object to homosexuality -- so do I. But a movie's subject matter has little to do with how good a movie it is. If that were the case, then there would have never been a bad movie made about God or a good one about the devil.

Could it be that a movie sympathizes with people you wouldn't let babysit your kids -- and still succeeds as a movie?

"American Beauty": Disgusting, soul-sick and scornful of normal people. Also a really well-made movie.

87 posted on 12/16/2005 6:04:59 PM PST by Generic_Login_1787
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