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Boy in Dallas suburb predicts start of WW III day before attacks
The Houston Chronicle ^ | 2001 | By R.G. RATCLIFFE

Posted on 12/06/2005 6:37:33 PM PST by willyd

The day before terrorists attacked New York and Washington, a fifth-grader in a Dallas suburb told his teacher World War III would begin the next day, school officials have told the FBI.

The boy was absent from school the day of the attacks, Sept. 11, and the following day, but has been at school since then, said Rhonda Lucich, a director of elementary education for the Garland Independent School District.

Lucich said the boy approached his teacher on the afternoon of Sept. 10 and casually told her:

"Tomorrow, World War III will begin. It will begin in the United States, and the United States will lose."

Lucich said the child's statements were passed along to the FBI. She said she did not know whether the agency had acted on the tip. An FBI spokesman could not be reached for comment.

Lucich said school officials are concerned, but not alarmed.

"It is one of those things I sincerely want to believe was coincidental," Lucich said.

Lucich declined to name the elementary school involved. She said she was told about the boy's comment by his teacher and the school's principal two days after the Sept. 11 attacks.

She said the boy is multiracial but that she does not believe his ethnicity includes a Middle Eastern background.

U.S. officials believe Middle Eastern terrorists linked to Saudi Arabian exile Osama bin Laden are responsible for last week's attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon.

Garland is a northern suburb of Dallas. Two charities in the neighboring suburb of Richardson have been investigated in the past for possible ties to Palestinian terrorist organizations.

The Global Relief Foundation Inc. and the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, both based in Richardson, have been investigated on allegations they raised money for Hamas, a Palestinian terrorist organization. Both organizations have denied such activity.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 3; 911; iii; jihadinamerica; predictions; sept11; terrorism; worldwar
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To: willyd
HI. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING I READ.
21 posted on 12/06/2005 6:47:38 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: willyd
There are plenty of people of all ages and backgrounds predicting doom and armageddon every day. No matter what day WWIII begins there will be somebody somewhere who predicted it.

It reminds me of the J.W.s who predicted the end of the world on some specific date in the early 1900s and when the day came and went and the world didn't end, they said that was the day the world BEGAN to end and we are now continuously living in the "end times". I guess that means if the world ends on July 18 in the year 2461, for example, then they will technically be correct.
22 posted on 12/06/2005 6:47:38 PM PST by spinestein (All journalists today are paid advocates for someone's agenda.)
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To: willyd

I think this was debunked some years ago.


23 posted on 12/06/2005 6:47:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
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To: ConservativeChinese

The boy was "right"? America is going to lose this war? That's what you believe?


24 posted on 12/06/2005 6:47:49 PM PST by nopardons
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To: x1stcav
"The boy was wrong. This was the start of WW4. I think most would agree that RR won WW3."

Bingo!

25 posted on 12/06/2005 6:48:41 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: willyd
Remember the last guy from Garland that thought he could see the future? Didn't work out to well for him.


26 posted on 12/06/2005 6:49:18 PM PST by txroadkill
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To: nopardons
There were similar stories from N.Y.C,. shortly after 9/11 and NONE of them panned out.

As I recall, they were collaborated, but ignored.

27 posted on 12/06/2005 6:49:30 PM PST by MRMEAN (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress;but I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: ConservativeChinese
"Tomorrow, World War III will begin. It will begin in the United States, and the United States will lose."

>>>the boy was right.

ahem.

28 posted on 12/06/2005 6:50:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Don;t know how true this is but...

Police sources said that, after the interviews, the boy's father left for Pakistan. After his departure, investigators conducted a second interview with the boy and his mother, who told them that her son was having psychological problems.

http://www.loosemoose52.com/page.php?id=3122

29 posted on 12/06/2005 6:50:54 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: willyd

The FBI didn't do anything about this? If only this boy's tip had been taken seriously, 9/11 could have been averted. Bush should have been all over this. Obviously, a Congressional investigation is needed to investigate this lack of action. The Dems would be fools not to milk this for all its worth.

If he was 10 years old, then 9, 10, 11 constitute a series. Louis Fart-a-kan may be able to make something of this, especially if the portends indicate a Zionist conspiracy. If the boy was Muslim, then that is merely a coicidence.


30 posted on 12/06/2005 6:51:30 PM PST by rbg81
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To: MikeinIraq

We had a few kids in NYC say this too.


31 posted on 12/06/2005 6:51:52 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Your link doesn't work.


32 posted on 12/06/2005 6:52:09 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
one more time... did a search and this came back. http://www.loosemoose52.com/page.php?id=3122
33 posted on 12/06/2005 6:53:54 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: sageb1

That was true.

Snopes is the one that posted it at their site that turned it into a rumor.


34 posted on 12/06/2005 6:54:39 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MRMEAN

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/predict2.htm
Claim: A Dallas schoolboy predicted the start of World War III one day before the terrorist attacks on America.

Status: Undetermined.

Origins: This
is another single-source anecdote, the source in this case being the Houston Chronicle, which reported on September 19 that:

The day before terrorists attacked New York and Washington, a fifth-grader in a Dallas suburb told his teacher World War III would begin the next day, school officials have told the FBI.

The boy was absent from school the day of the attacks, Sept. 11, and the following day, but has been at school since then, said Rhonda Lucich, a director of elementary education for the Garland Independent School District.

Lucich said the boy approached his teacher on the afternoon of Sept. 10 and casually told her:

"Tomorrow, World War III will begin. It will begin in the United States, and the United States will lose."

That was all the information the Chronicle provided in the article other than noting that the FBI had been informed. The article didn't report the boy's name or the school he attended, nor did it report whether the FBI investigated the tip and what they found if they did. From the information given, one could not rule out the possibility that the boy's teacher misremembered or misreported what he had said to her the day before, or that the boy typically made statements like the one quoted but no one ever paid much attention to him before. Sure enough, twelve days later, the Chronicle reported in a follow-up article:

Garland Police spokeswoman Stephanie Funk said today that FBI agents interviewed the child's teacher and decided no further investigation was warranted . . .

Steve Knagg, communications director for the Garland Independent School District, last week said the teacher later decided she could not be certain the boy had actually predicted World War III would begin on the same day as the terrorist attacks.

The Dallas boy's "prediction" appears to have been yet another case of general statements being misremembered or afforded greater significance than they merit in light of subsequent events. And even if the boy's words were recalled accurately by his teacher, he said nothing about terrorists or hijackings or New York City; the specifics in his statement — that World War III has begun, and that the "United States will lose" — have yet to prove true.

A similar incident involving a schoolchild was reported in Brooklyn, New York:

In Brooklyn, a high school freshman who recently immigrated from Pakistan was investigated by federal agents after his teacher reported that he had predicted the Trade Center's collapse a week before the towers were attacked.

The student pointed out a third-story window of New Utrecht High School toward the Trade Center and said, "Do you see those two buildings? They won't be standing there next week," according to three police sources and a city official familiar with the investigation. They said the comment came in the midst of a heated political discussion the student was having with his teacher in an English class for Arab-American students.

Once again, however, no follow-up information surfaced to indicate that the boy had any specific foreknowledge of the September 11 attacks:

Federal agents who visited the New Utrecht school questioned the student and his older brother, who also attends there, the sources said. Afterward, the agents tried to question their father, who chastised them for harassing his children, they said.

Police sources said that, after the interviews, the boy's father left for Pakistan. After his departure, investigators conducted a second interview with the boy and his mother, who told them that her son was having psychological problems.

Additional information:


35 posted on 12/06/2005 6:55:30 PM PST by aft_lizard (What does G-d look like then if we evolved from nothing?See Genisis Ch 1:26-27)
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To: nopardons

The NYC stories were true. The FBI investigated and never posted follow ups, which means, they are still under investigation.


36 posted on 12/06/2005 6:55:48 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: x1stcav

"The boy was wrong. This was the start of WW4. I think most would agree that RR won WW3."


I wonder if the historians will reflect that fact.


37 posted on 12/06/2005 6:56:04 PM PST by aligncare (Wasted my time...got my Journalism degree)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic
"Police sources said that, after the interviews, the boy's father left for Pakistan. After his departure, investigators conducted a second interview with the boy and his mother, who told them that her son was having psychological problems.

Sounds more like indoctrination problems.

39 posted on 12/06/2005 6:58:05 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Calpernia

there are probably many more people who knew that 9/11 was going to happen, then we care to think.


40 posted on 12/06/2005 6:59:49 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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