Posted on 12/05/2005 9:01:26 PM PST by Jo Nuvark
Asking forgiveness in advance for this droll vanity. Every time I hear John Kerry talk about the atrocities and tortures in Vietnam (now Iraq), I wonder about electrocuting someone with a telephone. Can this really be done? Or is Kerry inventing again?
I thought you were probably kidding but wasn't quite sure as I don't know you and it is dicey to make assumptions. Sometimes one finds oneself chatting with someone maybe quite young and sometimes naive. Other times -- like here -- they are goofing on ~you~! I bit!
[...30HZ zap...]
Yikes. Didn't think about a phone call. Helllllllo!!!
Still think Kerry saw it in a movie and passed it off as an eyewitness.
[...lick a 9V battery...]
I've done that. Don't like the feeling at all. But it doesn't rise to torture.
And you took that bite very well, thank you.
Same here ... almost. My big sister gave me a hairpin and told me to plug it in. I did ... but survived. To this very day, I will not do anything she tells me to do! LOL
Kerry didn't SERVE in the military. He was a poser! There is nothing about Mr. Kerry that remotely resembles a servant.
Excellent correction - he used the Military in every way possible.
[...$100 laptops with hand crank generator...]
I want one. They aren't supposed to be offered in the states. Imagine the truth reaching the entire world through the internet. Wow! Remember Radio Free Europe? This is like Internet Free People!!!
If you tell "The Big Lie" often enough ... people will believe it. That is the heart and soul of the dem's strategy for everything. They are revolting ... but sllightly less revolting than the morons who believe in them.
[...sister gave me a hairpin...]
You are fortunate. I felt so guilty, like I had done something bad. I remember the lights dimming and the socket sparking. I just told my Dad. Actually, being two years old, I assumed my parents knew. I don't know about your Mother, but mine had eyes in the back of her head. Really, she did.
"Still think Kerry saw it in a movie and passed it off as an eyewitness."
I doubt it. The technique was used both in Nam and in the US. Their was a Chicago PD Lt. that used the technique regularly to obtain confessions. The several he obtained were all NG. Each conviction was overturned and the real perps later convicted.
I remember that quite small currents can be lethal. I just Googled this and found an excellent Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_shock which says that 60mA (60/1000 of an amp) across the chest, or even 1mA applied directly to the heart can do the job.
I would say that the 9 V battery to the tongue is tingling you with several mA. Automobiles have a starting current of several hundred amps (not miliamps). Good to keep these currents away from the heart!
It was called the Tucker Telephone.
I think I was about 3 years old, making my sister about 5. My mother, too, had eyes in the back of her head ... but only where I was concerned. My sister was the perfect child ... really. She so seldom did anything wrong that my mother was always intent upon keeping all her eyes squarely on me! LOL
[...60/1000 amp applied directly to the heart can do the job...]
You know they have home defibrilators now. Could you "McGuyver" someone with a telephone if they had a heart attack?
[...my mother was intent upon keeping her eyes squarely on me!...]
Well some of us need more than one angel to get through life. You must have had a very special purpose for God to watch over you so carefully.
The Tucker Telephone is a torture device designed using parts from a old-fashioned crank telephone. The electric generator of the telephone is wired in sequence to two batteries so that the instrument can be used to administer electric shocks to another person. The Tucker Telephone was invented by a trustee who acted as the "resident physician" at the Tucker State Prison Farm, Arkansas, in the 1960s.
Thank you. I always thought "2001 Space Odyssey" was an Emperor with no clothes. I pretended to understand it until I got older and realized it was just a dumb movie.
I am guessing that defribrilators are able to detect the heart rhythm and deliver the shock at just the right time. Else you might be switching it off instead of on! I expect a crank phone has enough BANG though. I suggest don't try this at home. Your lawyer, I'm sure, will agree! LOL
Hey all... it's late. I'm getting tired. Thank you for the lesson in hand crank generator telephones, electricity, amps, volts, current, sockets, defibrilators, angels and the good old days. Merry Christmas and God bless you. I'm going to bed.
Only the dedicated ones have that circuitry. They're either implanted, worn with implanted electrodes, or you're in the hospital with a temp unit. The discharge is a 700V DC zap to clear(depolarize) all muscle conductors simultaneously. The idea is that a normal polarization will then occur and be followed by normal circuit flow once the pacemaker signals the next contraction.
Fibrillaiton is when the muscle just quivers. The polarizaitons/depolarizaitons are shallow and don't follow the normal conduction direction across hte heart. Generally, local circular paths occur all over without effecting the directional contraction that causes blood flow. The jolt clears everything, so if a normal polarizaiton is possible, it occurs everywhere and the next trigger from the pacemaker causes the directional contractions down the heart wall to the bottom of the heart.
" I expect a crank phone has enough BANG though."
No. It's AC, so it can't perform a defib. All it's good for is pain. Normal phones are fused. Only high voltage, like lightning and power distribution lines can jump the gap of a blown fuse.
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