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OAKLAND: Are rowdy fans sinking Raiders?
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 10/27/5 | C.W. Nevius

Posted on 10/27/2005 9:08:04 AM PDT by SmithL

Bizarre fans' rowdy behavior puts team at financial crossroads.

Are Raider fans the barbarians of the National Football League? Well, consider this: how many other teams have fans so rowdy that they've been the subject of their own documentary film?

"Oakland Raider Parking Lot'' will be shown tomorrow night at the Berkeley Video and Film Festival. The documentary, by independent filmmaker Jason Blalock, introduces viewers to the infamous, loud and often boozy members of the Raider Nation. Blalock, now in graduate school at Cal, says he is no sports fan and so his friends warned him what he was getting into.

"Everybody I mentioned it to went, 'Oooooh, I don't want to go there. Not to the Black Hole,' '' Blalock says.

The film couldn't be more timely because the Raiders, as well as Oakland and Alameda County, are at a crossroads, in no small part because of the reputation of its fans.

When the team returned from Los Angeles 10 years ago, fans were sold personal seat licenses -- in effect, contracts sold to generate some of the cash needed to bring the team back to Oakland and renovate the Coliseum without a tax hike. Critics called the unpopular PSLs a ticket to buy a ticket -- the idea was to get fans to not only pay for a season ticket, but the privilege to buy it. It didn't work. Not enough fans bought the PSLs.

The 10-year PSL plan expires this year, and if fans don't sign up again -- or if another, more popular plan isn't introduced to replace it -- the losses to Oakland, which bankrolled the return, could reach tens of millions of dollars.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Society; Sports; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aldavissux; blackhole; cheapplasticswords; notherethere; oaktown; raidernation
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Documentary on television

"Oakland Raider Parking Lot," a documentary about the football team's fans, will be shown Friday at the Berkeley Video and Film Festival. The festival funs Oct. 28 through Oct. 30 at the Oaks Theater, 1875 Solano Ave. in Berkeley. For information, log on to www.berkeleyvideofilmfest.org or call 510-526-1836.

C.W. Nevius' column appears Tuesdays and Saturdays in Bay Area and in East Bay Life on Fridays. E-mail him at cwnevius@sfchronicle.com.

1 posted on 10/27/2005 9:08:06 AM PDT by SmithL
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Who's in your wallet?
2 posted on 10/27/2005 9:08:35 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: SmithL

Looks like extras from Road Warrior.


3 posted on 10/27/2005 9:09:50 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: SmithL

No stinky talent is sinking the Raiders.


4 posted on 10/27/2005 9:12:14 AM PDT by DarthVader (Do something positive for your country today: Punch an America hating leftie in the mouth.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

GWAR rejects.


5 posted on 10/27/2005 9:12:20 AM PDT by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: SmithL; Jersey Republican Biker Chick

LOL Is that JRBC I see in that crowd? ;)


6 posted on 10/27/2005 9:15:26 AM PDT by PaulaB
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To: SmithL

Of course the reality of the guys in the Black Hole is that they are the high rollers who buy season tickets (the Black Hole is an expensive set of seats), they're just having fun enjoying Halloween 8 times a year. Oakland's seat filling problem has a lot more to do with a lack of winning than the fans than the "rowdy" fans. I'd love to see a game from the Hole, of course I'm one of those guys that thinks anytime I can talk the day after going to a sporting event then the event must not have been very fun.


7 posted on 10/27/2005 9:15:58 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: SmithL

Is that Paul Tuetel, Sr. in the back on the right?


8 posted on 10/27/2005 9:16:52 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ERADICATED ASAP)
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To: Sam's Army

Hey, I like GWAR and I am a Raider fan.


9 posted on 10/27/2005 9:17:32 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: SmithL

Ooooh, yeah.

These guys are so tough that they can't even sell out their home games.

10 posted on 10/27/2005 9:18:05 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Silver and Blackout)
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To: SmithL
In comparison, Raider fans make the Hells Angels look respectable.

And for the record I mean NO offense or disrespect to the Hells Angels MC - I'm an oooooold ex-biker myself.

11 posted on 10/27/2005 9:19:31 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: PaulaB; Owl_Eagle; Dashing Dasher; pissant; JimWforBush; r-q-tek86; Fierce Allegiance
"LOL Is that JRBC I see in that crowd? ;)"

Um, my spiked shoulder pads and executioner helmet were damaged when I moved. :o(

I HAVE BEEN KNOW TO GET REAL DRUNK AND ROWDY THOUGH!!!

12 posted on 10/27/2005 9:19:46 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: SmithL
I had season tickets when the Raiders played in the L.A. Coliseum and major fights in the stands were an every game occurrence. One Steelers fan was beaten within an inch of his life not far from where I was sitting. Security was very weak.

The fans in Oakland during the Raiders' heyday in the 70s were rowdy, but considerably better behaved than a lot of these wannabe Road Warriors in the "Black Hole" these days. Actually the fans were more like the players -- more weird than violent. Dave Casper, Fred Belitnikoff, Ken Stabler, Ted Hendricks, Phil Villapinao, Otis Sistrunk, Lester Hayes. ....those were the days.

13 posted on 10/27/2005 9:19:49 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Wow a fan of GWAR, Rob Zombie and the Raiders. I'm liking you more and more ;)


14 posted on 10/27/2005 9:21:19 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
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15 posted on 10/27/2005 9:23:08 AM PDT by PaulaB
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To: SmithL; CatoRenasci; BurbankKarl
What do you expect from the "East Bay?"

Of course, if they had stayed in LA, the parking lot would be half filled with low-riders, and half filled with Priuses and Minis.

16 posted on 10/27/2005 9:24:40 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: PaulaB

OMG, those are the shoulder pads I had that were ruined.


17 posted on 10/27/2005 9:26:41 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I need a pair to wear to work

to let people know today is not

the day to bring me stupid ;)


18 posted on 10/27/2005 9:28:34 AM PDT by PaulaB
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To: SmithL
I like Raiders fans. They're a colorful lot and are generally good-natured. I think they're totally misrepresented. Most of them aren't violent Hells Angels types, just a bunch of weekend warriors having a good time.

The writer of this bowel movement needs to get a life.

19 posted on 10/27/2005 9:29:57 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: discostu

I am a big metal fan, I am a 21 year Raider fan, and I love NASCAR, NHRA, UFC too.


20 posted on 10/27/2005 9:30:37 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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