Posted on 09/09/2005 11:13:52 AM PDT by neverdem
I watched Nightline last night. Unfortunately, I couldn't locate its transcript. They were unable to ascertain whether they are under martial law or not, apparently because of more than one chain of command. Despite this confusion, or because of it, the following stories are linked:
New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes
Police Begin Seizing Guns of Civilians
Call the NRA-ILA and your Representative
Corpses, Guns Found in New Orleans Homes
"Iraqi families are allowed to have one AK- 47 in the house for protection", according to this link.
Iraqi families are allowed by law to have one AK- 47 in the house for protection.
Why do Iraqis have more natural rights than the citizens of New Orleans?
Why should the entire city be evacuated when approximately 40% is not now flooded?
Cholera, leptospirosis and other post flood water-borne diseases. Anyone staying in New Orleans now and removed later is a potential disease spreader. They need to be removed for our safety as well as their own.
Neverdem, surely you do not regard Nightline as a serious, accurate source of information, do you?
When you hear it from the horses mouth, i.e. NOLA's Chief of Police, NOLA's Chief of Homeland Security and the First Army Commander? Yes, I know what I heard.
Dismissive comments about the MSM are not appropriate when you are getting first hand comments from the main actors. Say what you please about the MSM. More often than not, they alone have the resources for first hand reporting. The Internet and talk radio are usually second hand reports, opinion and commentary.
Cholera should not be a problem if they are resupplied with potable water. You can get leptospirosis without floods. Common sense tells the remaining folks to avoid the floodwaters and stay on dry land.
The Army Corps of Engineers has restored to operation 37 of the city's 174 permanent pumps, allowing them to drain 11,000 cubic feet of water per second from the basin. When all the pumps are working, they can remove 81,000 cubic feet of water per second, said Dan Hitchings of the engineering corps.
Tests have shown no evidence of cholera or other dangerous diseases in flooded areas.
I admit to being polemic on the subject, but can you disagree that hearing comments "from the horse's mouth" as you say, can not only be misleading, but deliberately misleading?
It is the biggest source of misinformation there is. When a "respected" news source like CBS shows a talking head with no context with words spewing out of his/her mouth for 15 seconds, what you hear and what you see is no accident.
That 15 seconds may have been cut for a specific reason, such as conserving valuable airtime. However, can you agree that the cut may be made a particular (and in sometimes not so subtle) way to make a specific point?
You may think it is not "appropriate" to make dismissive comments about the MSM, but I would disagree. I think it is vital to be skeptical.
Should we ever trust CBS again after the National Guard Memo incident? Was it not perpetrated at the highest levels of management at CBS? Why should I listen to one single word they say? Do you think that was an isolated case?
Please pardon this vanity post. Maybe someone can enlighten me about the madness in New Orleans. It's not because the relatively few folks remaining on dry ground can't be resupplied, and portable latrines were never invented. Why do these folks on dry land without kids needing school or medical problems have to be disarmed, dispossessed and evacuated?
From what I have seen and read, the French Quarter remains dry and intact. A question about unsanitary floodwaters has already been answered. The water is being drained. Insect-borne illness is nothing new.
I cannot give you an answer that is consonant with the US Constitution.
that, in itself, gives you an answer of sorts.
Yet. IMHO everyone remaining in NO should be evacuated for their own safety as well as the safety of the communities they might be relocate to.
Nightline earned its reputation by going in depth into a subject like a documentary, not with 15 second soundbites taken out of context.
Ted Koppel had relatively long segments of pertinent questions to and answers from NOLA's Chief of Police, NOLA's Chief of Homeland Security and the First Army Commander.
by the way, good compilation of relevant articles, including the Iraqi punchline to this sorry joke.
Cops trapped survivors in New Orleans
Be sure and see post #31 for an example of how skillfully the Leftists are taking advantage of the tragedy!
We have some here that will believe it!
this is important - it is quite possibly the point at which a drastic humanitarian crisis turns into a radical constitutional crisis.
Since I have been to the French Quarter and on Bourbon Street. You cannot convince me that there aren't any pathogens that can't be rejuvenated in the water. Every night was a party, everynight people peeing in the street and alleys, puke flowed and the place smelled just like Paris in the summer. Sorry, the disease is there
I really don't see this that way. Sending people to shelters with guns is not a good idea. Leaving the guns behind is not a good idea. I am concerned as to what provision will be made to return the guns to their LEGAL owners.
I'd like to believe, that if these people were able to leave in their own transportation, this would not be happening.
YEP
these people don't want to leave, apparently don't NEED to leave, have committed no crimes, etc...
the government has only very narrow legal authority to forcibly remove people from their own homes, and NONE to confiscate legally owned weapons.
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