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Bush's SCOTUS Pick: The Last Betrayal?

Posted on 07/19/2005 11:02:47 AM PDT by faithincowboys

If as it appears Bush will nominate a moderate named Edith Clement to the Court, will the Right bolt from the GOP in next years midterms? Bush, someone I have been a big fan of, is turning out to be a heck of a disappoinment. He hasn't controlled the borders and apparently only used the promise to appoint "strict constructionists" as a cynical ploy to get re-elected. Bush, like his father before him, is proving to be a huge demoralizer for the Right.


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To: Howlin
ABC News is reporting that Joy Clement has received a call and will NOT be the SCOTUS nominee to replace Sandra Day O'Conner. LOL
161 posted on 07/19/2005 1:56:20 PM PDT by deport (If you want something bad enough, there's someone who will sell it to you. Even the truth your way.)
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To: Howlin; faithincowboys
This is a funny thread, Howlin.

Thanks for the ping. I love it when the malcontents have heart attacks before anything has even happened.....

They must get their kicks saying the same things over and over, and over and over.....

I sure did love Bush until he did THIS. I worked so hard for him, and fought for him, and now he's betrayed me by doing THIS. I'm SOOOooo loyal, but now he's done THIS.

Phony baloney plastic banana good time rock n rollers...........the whole lot of them.

162 posted on 07/19/2005 2:05:07 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: deport

hehehe......


163 posted on 07/19/2005 2:05:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan

Larry Klayman is still in the running.......


164 posted on 07/19/2005 2:06:00 PM PDT by deport (If you want something bad enough, there's someone who will sell it to you. Even the truth your way.)
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To: ohioWfan

Larry Klayman is still in the running.......


165 posted on 07/19/2005 2:06:32 PM PDT by deport (If you want something bad enough, there's someone who will sell it to you. Even the truth your way.)
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To: faithincowboys
It's his job to be a fascist dictator and rule the world, faith.

(Too bad he stays within his constitutional limits instead, huh??)

166 posted on 07/19/2005 2:07:00 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: deport

Damn hiccups....... begone with you


167 posted on 07/19/2005 2:07:06 PM PDT by deport (If you want something bad enough, there's someone who will sell it to you. Even the truth your way.)
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To: deport

As per the ABC report?


168 posted on 07/19/2005 2:07:33 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: ohioWfan

As per the ABC report?



Naw..... just faith in cowboys don't you know.


169 posted on 07/19/2005 2:09:28 PM PDT by deport (If you want something bad enough, there's someone who will sell it to you. Even the truth your way.)
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To: faithincowboys

"Isn't it, at some point, Bush's job to corral the GOPers in the Senate, argue his policies to the American people and effectively combat the liberal media? He isn't doing enough if all he's doing is riding his bike waiting to wreck."

Yes, and I agree with you that he's falling far short of doing that job well.

"He has the numbers in the Senate and the House and he has the damn Presidency, why doesn't he act like it?"

I suspect to some extent it's because he doesn't have the numbers in the Senate.

There are too many RINOs in the Senate who won't support him on his policy. I'm throughly disgusted with my two "Republican" Senators from Ohio who are among those that don't appear to be supporting Bush.

Bush really needs to pin them down and make them squirm in front of the voters in Ohio because too many Ohioans are just voting Republican and aren't realizing that our State party keeps giving it's support to RINOs and not Republicans.

Between Voinovich's actions on Bolton and DeWine selling out on the judicial nominees, Republicans in Ohio are starting to wake up to how bad our state republican party has become, and donations are way down.

Bush needs to keep the pressure on them. Their actions need to be exposed to the average Ohioan, so we can build support for making them represent our views, or throw them out of office.

Personally I think Bush needs to call an emergency session of Congress and make the Senate the senate consider all his nominees. They can filibuster all they want, but don't let them end the session and go home until they vote.

He has the authority granted to him by the Constitution, he needs to use it.

Then we the voters need to make it so that incumbents that aren't representing their voters start fearing primaries because we hold them accountable for their actions rather than falling in line when the party chairman endourses a candidate.


170 posted on 07/19/2005 2:10:29 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: deport; faithincowboys

LOL! Well he clearly is on the inside track........


171 posted on 07/19/2005 2:12:43 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: Spiff

Bump to that. Of course, we're 'loony.' See, if you want a nominee who's a proven conservative, one who has made various references in and out of the courtroom to their philosophy, so you know darn well what they believe about the Constitution--why, that's just crazy talk!

However, accepting docilely the nomination of a federal appeals court judge whose record reflects a fine appellate judge but has no real indication of the intentions as to the Constitution--well, that's just plain common sense! It's not as if we've ever had a nominee like that turn on us and the Constitution, it plain isn't true! And anyone who says different must be one of those foot-stomping idiots who wants to bolt the party and cause dissent and give the Congress to the Commies and ruin all the work we've done and waste their vote and...

Me, I think the GOP's base deserves to know that the nominee is not merely a fine appellate judge, but an appointee who is in line with their beliefs when it comes to the Constitution. And that means a paper trail and a likely Senate confirmation fight. The folks who are shovelling otherwise here are simply willing to happily exclaim BOHICA over and over. At least some constitutionalists aren't so foolish as to smile and grip their ankles again.


172 posted on 07/19/2005 2:24:35 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The nominee needs to be the proven conservative we fought for, not a Souter-to-be sellout.)
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To: thoughtomator
"There are plenty I wouldn't whine about... Michael Lutting, Edith Jones, Janice Brown, Emilio Garza, to name a few prominent candidates. But any judge who thinks that Roe v. Wade was anything other than an unconstitutional exercise of raw judicial power is unacceptable to me."

I agree (and would add Estrada, Olsen, Pryor, and several others). I think that she's been unfairly attacked for that position, but would agree that if she really liked Roe v Wade that no way could I support her. In short, I don't think she likes RvW.

But again, we don't even know the nominee yet.

173 posted on 07/19/2005 2:31:45 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: faithincowboys

My main complaints against Bush are:

*He signed CFR

*Said he'd sign AWB

*Had no comment when SCOTUS last month used "interstate commerce" to justify federal legislation against growing personal medical marijuana.

*Had no comment on the eminent domain decision by SCOTUS.

In short Bush is not a particular believer in the American and English tradition of limited government, but a rationalist of the French tradition.

All that notwithstanding, Bush is IMO a straight shooter. He is the one guy, IMO, other than Tony Blair, who understands the great battle of our time, the deadly urgency of eradicating Islamic terror. But sometimes I think he even takes his eye off the ball on that.

I can't wait to see who his nominees are.


174 posted on 07/19/2005 2:32:28 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: faithincowboys

Now that Bush has nominated the Conservative Judge Roberts, are you feeling any better?


175 posted on 07/19/2005 6:10:22 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Hillary is a mad cow.)
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To: faithincowboys
Told you not to worry.....
176 posted on 07/19/2005 6:29:27 PM PDT by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: faithincowboys; deport

YOU WERE WRONG!!!!

AGAIN!!!!!


177 posted on 07/19/2005 7:06:42 PM PDT by Howlin (Is Valerie Plame a mute?)
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To: faithincowboys

How does crow taste?


178 posted on 07/19/2005 7:07:49 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P . The wild winds of fortune will carry us onward)
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To: Howlin

Will all the trollish naysayers now commit self-zot?


179 posted on 07/19/2005 7:08:10 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: AmishDude

There are nowhere to be found.


180 posted on 07/19/2005 7:08:32 PM PDT by Howlin (Is Valerie Plame a mute?)
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