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Anyone see Fantastic Four?

Posted on 07/09/2005 9:24:40 AM PDT by Joe Republc

Just asking... anyone see it? I'd like to know how any FReepers liked it. I read a ton of their comic books, esp. the John Byrne ones, many moons ago.

So... flame on!

-- Joe


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: fantastic; fantasticfour; four; marvel; movie
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To: pcottraux
Well, I dont have the unedited review archived, but to my memory, he got into a lot more detail than just having sex with Rouge as I recall. It was two paragraphs worth (that I do remember), and were likely the largest paragraphs of the review. I read the review almost immediately upon arriving home after the very first showing of the flick, and saw that the offending passages were struck from the review within 8 hours. Like I said, it was just plain creepy but I dont have a copy of the unedited review.

As far as X2's logical fallacies, I wondered if he had even watched the movie. He was wrong about so many plot details, I sincerely doubt that he had. But when you are looking for realism in a comic book movie (fercryinoutloud), then your ability to suspend disbelief and be an effective critic comes into question.

But when it comes to dramas and the like, I do value Ebert's opinion, but prefer Medved's...JFK

21 posted on 07/10/2005 8:19:14 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: BADROTOFINGER

Here is the offended paragraph. It was the last one in the review. His comments are only about 2 or 3 sentences worth.



"Other possibilities are left for future installments. There's a romance in the movie between Rogue and Iceman, but it doesn't exploit the possibilities of love between mutants with incompatible powers. How inconvenient if during sex your partner was accidentally teleported, frozen, slashed, etc. Does Cyclops wear his dark glasses to bed? "X2: X-Men United" lacks a beginning, a middle and an end, and exists more as a self-renewing loop. In that it is faithful to comic books themselves, which month after month and year after year seem frozen in the same fictional universe. Yes, there are comics in which the characters age and their worlds change, but the X-Men seem likely to continue forever, demonstrating their superpowers in one showcase scene after another. Perhaps in the next generation a mutant will appear named Scribbler, who can write a better screenplay for them."



My point is that all movies are filled with illogicalities, even (or especially) dramas. Pointing them out is not necessarily a criticism, but more of an observation.


22 posted on 07/10/2005 8:26:39 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: pcottraux

Offending, not offended, sorry.


23 posted on 07/10/2005 8:27:05 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

When it came to oldschool Marvel Comics, The Thing and The Hulk seemed to bump into each other and have a brawl about two or three times a year, :-)


24 posted on 07/10/2005 8:28:47 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: pcottraux

I am nearly positive there was more in the original. Like I said, it didnt last long after the first time I saw it, but the other paragraph was gone and that is what was left...JFK


25 posted on 07/10/2005 8:42:24 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: BADROTOFINGER

You may be having a false memory of what he said. That was all I could find. I have "false memories" all the time involving many different things. I think someone or something said something, but they didn't say as much as I thought. Ah, the amazing human mind.


26 posted on 07/10/2005 8:45:46 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: pcottraux

No false memories, the review was edited after its initial posting. I went to sleep then went to write a letter to him regarding his review, and found that it had been edited...JFK


27 posted on 07/10/2005 9:14:02 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: BADROTOFINGER

Sssuurrrrre.....

Oh, you were false memoried, alright. Clearly George W. Bush and his fascist right-wing cronies implanted false memories to make someone look bad into your mind, in a complicated and improbable conspiracy to eliminate their enemies. The evidence supports this.

Okay, I'm kidding, but with all those anti-Bush, ultra-left conspiracy "documentaries" that came out (and all got thumbs up from Ebert), I wouldn't be surprised if some Hollywood directors believed stuff like that.


28 posted on 07/10/2005 9:56:08 PM PDT by pcottraux
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To: BADROTOFINGER
He started straying into a 'what would it be like to have sex with a mutant?' thing

Insert Michael Jackson joke here....

29 posted on 07/11/2005 6:19:18 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: pcottraux

I trust Roger Ebert as a critic about as much as I trust Bill Clinton as a chaperone.


30 posted on 07/11/2005 6:22:56 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Joe Republc
Saw it Saturday. It was *okay*. The acting / casting of Mr. Fantastic and Dr. Doom was awful. The Thing and Human Torch were great though. Both the special effects and the one liners. And Jessica Alba is, well, ... JESSICA ALBA!

I thought they took a HUGE liberty with FF "canon" by having Dr. Doom (1)accompany them on their flight, and (2) get powers of his own. In addition, I was also disappointed that Doom didn't have a slavic accent.

All in all, I found it enjoyable though.

31 posted on 07/11/2005 6:23:59 AM PDT by The G Man (The Red States ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: Joe Republc
I saw it yesterday and found it thoroughly enjoyable! I'd definitely see it again! Don't listen to the silly critics or fanboys who nitpick over the slightest things. It was well worth MY money!

And I'm not the only one...

'Fantastic Four' Heats Up the Summer Box Office
by Brandon Gray
July 10, 2005

Clobbering modest expectations and bad buzz with a healthy dose of fun in a summer of darkness, Fantastic Four may have spelled doom for the year-to-year down streak, stretching overall weekend business past the comparable frame in 2004, if estimates hold.

Released by 20th Century Fox, Marvel Comics' superhero team blazed into the top spot with an estimated $56 million at 3,602 theaters, the fifth highest-grossing start ever for a comic book movie

32 posted on 07/11/2005 7:06:05 AM PDT by TheBigB (** FOX NEWS ALERT: Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT **)
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee

Issues 25 and 26. IMHO, one of the best story lines in comics. What I liked about Marvel was they were never shy about having a stronger character take on a weaker character. If Namor appeared in Daredevil - which he did - Namor would kick his butt - which he did. The same with these two issues. The Hulk discovers Rick Jones left him for Captain America and becomes super-pissed. He takes off for NYC and commences to tear the city apart. The Avengers are out of town, looking for him in the desert. The FF take him on. However, Mr. Fantastic is sick and bed-ridden. The Hulk breaks the Torches arm. The Invisible Girl passes out due to the incredible stress the Hulk places on her force fields. And the Thing is finally beaten by someone as he gets a wake up call like you could not imagine. Thinking he was always all powerful, he comes across an enraged Hulk who gets stronger and stronger as he gets madder. He beats the Thing into the pavement. The Avengers make an appearance and pretty much get beaten too. A great two issues as both the FF and the Avengers realize what the Hulk is capable of doing. Jack Kirby's art was fantastic - to say the least.


33 posted on 07/11/2005 7:21:52 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: BADROTOFINGER

What is great about doing superhero sequals is there are a ton of characters and stories to draw from. Having them fight Galactus would be great! The Molecule Man would be great! The Skrulls would be great!


34 posted on 07/11/2005 7:24:35 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: 7thson

All four actors (Griffudd, Alba, Chiklis, and Evans) have signed on for the sequel already.


35 posted on 07/11/2005 7:27:42 AM PDT by TheBigB (** FOX NEWS ALERT: Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT **)
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To: Joe Republc

I saw it on opening night with three friends. I thought it was Fantastic. Two of my friends thought it was pretty good and one thought it was ok. I plan to see it again and definitely will buy it when it comes out on dvd. Go see it.


36 posted on 07/11/2005 8:23:49 AM PDT by Landry Fan
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To: TheOtherOne

I'm waiting for "Jessica Alba: The Movie."


37 posted on 07/11/2005 8:25:49 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: sharktrager

Well, you'd have to feel around to find her. It wouldn't be all bad.


38 posted on 07/11/2005 8:26:29 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Except that big rock guy would just pound you.

Scared Bunny Blog - Not for the timid

39 posted on 07/11/2005 8:32:34 AM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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To: sharktrager
Except that big rock guy would just pound you.

Naw. Just hook him up with She-Hulk. That will keep him occupied. He just needs some good superhero lovin'.

40 posted on 07/11/2005 10:57:38 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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