Posted on 07/09/2005 9:24:40 AM PDT by Joe Republc
Just asking... anyone see it? I'd like to know how any FReepers liked it. I read a ton of their comic books, esp. the John Byrne ones, many moons ago.
So... flame on!
-- Joe
As far as X2's logical fallacies, I wondered if he had even watched the movie. He was wrong about so many plot details, I sincerely doubt that he had. But when you are looking for realism in a comic book movie (fercryinoutloud), then your ability to suspend disbelief and be an effective critic comes into question.
But when it comes to dramas and the like, I do value Ebert's opinion, but prefer Medved's...JFK
Here is the offended paragraph. It was the last one in the review. His comments are only about 2 or 3 sentences worth.
"Other possibilities are left for future installments. There's a romance in the movie between Rogue and Iceman, but it doesn't exploit the possibilities of love between mutants with incompatible powers. How inconvenient if during sex your partner was accidentally teleported, frozen, slashed, etc. Does Cyclops wear his dark glasses to bed? "X2: X-Men United" lacks a beginning, a middle and an end, and exists more as a self-renewing loop. In that it is faithful to comic books themselves, which month after month and year after year seem frozen in the same fictional universe. Yes, there are comics in which the characters age and their worlds change, but the X-Men seem likely to continue forever, demonstrating their superpowers in one showcase scene after another. Perhaps in the next generation a mutant will appear named Scribbler, who can write a better screenplay for them."
My point is that all movies are filled with illogicalities, even (or especially) dramas. Pointing them out is not necessarily a criticism, but more of an observation.
Offending, not offended, sorry.
When it came to oldschool Marvel Comics, The Thing and The Hulk seemed to bump into each other and have a brawl about two or three times a year, :-)
I am nearly positive there was more in the original. Like I said, it didnt last long after the first time I saw it, but the other paragraph was gone and that is what was left...JFK
You may be having a false memory of what he said. That was all I could find. I have "false memories" all the time involving many different things. I think someone or something said something, but they didn't say as much as I thought. Ah, the amazing human mind.
No false memories, the review was edited after its initial posting. I went to sleep then went to write a letter to him regarding his review, and found that it had been edited...JFK
Sssuurrrrre.....
Oh, you were false memoried, alright. Clearly George W. Bush and his fascist right-wing cronies implanted false memories to make someone look bad into your mind, in a complicated and improbable conspiracy to eliminate their enemies. The evidence supports this.
Okay, I'm kidding, but with all those anti-Bush, ultra-left conspiracy "documentaries" that came out (and all got thumbs up from Ebert), I wouldn't be surprised if some Hollywood directors believed stuff like that.
Insert Michael Jackson joke here....
I trust Roger Ebert as a critic about as much as I trust Bill Clinton as a chaperone.
I thought they took a HUGE liberty with FF "canon" by having Dr. Doom (1)accompany them on their flight, and (2) get powers of his own. In addition, I was also disappointed that Doom didn't have a slavic accent.
All in all, I found it enjoyable though.
And I'm not the only one...
'Fantastic Four' Heats Up the Summer Box Office
by Brandon Gray
July 10, 2005
Clobbering modest expectations and bad buzz with a healthy dose of fun in a summer of darkness, Fantastic Four may have spelled doom for the year-to-year down streak, stretching overall weekend business past the comparable frame in 2004, if estimates hold.
Released by 20th Century Fox, Marvel Comics' superhero team blazed into the top spot with an estimated $56 million at 3,602 theaters, the fifth highest-grossing start ever for a comic book movie
Issues 25 and 26. IMHO, one of the best story lines in comics. What I liked about Marvel was they were never shy about having a stronger character take on a weaker character. If Namor appeared in Daredevil - which he did - Namor would kick his butt - which he did. The same with these two issues. The Hulk discovers Rick Jones left him for Captain America and becomes super-pissed. He takes off for NYC and commences to tear the city apart. The Avengers are out of town, looking for him in the desert. The FF take him on. However, Mr. Fantastic is sick and bed-ridden. The Hulk breaks the Torches arm. The Invisible Girl passes out due to the incredible stress the Hulk places on her force fields. And the Thing is finally beaten by someone as he gets a wake up call like you could not imagine. Thinking he was always all powerful, he comes across an enraged Hulk who gets stronger and stronger as he gets madder. He beats the Thing into the pavement. The Avengers make an appearance and pretty much get beaten too. A great two issues as both the FF and the Avengers realize what the Hulk is capable of doing. Jack Kirby's art was fantastic - to say the least.
What is great about doing superhero sequals is there are a ton of characters and stories to draw from. Having them fight Galactus would be great! The Molecule Man would be great! The Skrulls would be great!
All four actors (Griffudd, Alba, Chiklis, and Evans) have signed on for the sequel already.
I saw it on opening night with three friends. I thought it was Fantastic. Two of my friends thought it was pretty good and one thought it was ok. I plan to see it again and definitely will buy it when it comes out on dvd. Go see it.
I'm waiting for "Jessica Alba: The Movie."
Well, you'd have to feel around to find her. It wouldn't be all bad.
Naw. Just hook him up with She-Hulk. That will keep him occupied. He just needs some good superhero lovin'.
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