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Artists concerned tattoos losing nonconformist lure
Reuters/Yahoo ^ | Mon May 16,10:37 AM ET | Walker Simon

Posted on 05/16/2005 12:03:45 PM PDT by martin_fierro

Artists concerned tattoos losing nonconformist lure

By Walker Simon

Mon May 16,10:37 AM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - As models flaunted head-to-toe body art and hard rock pulsated in a cavernous ballroom, veteran tattoo artists at a New York convention on Saturday wondered if their once taboo artistry was losing its nonconformist lure.

Practitioners from 12 countries posted thousands of designs as crowds packed makeshift corridors and organizers created a carnival-like air with giant freak show canvases draping the walls.

Americans, especially women, are embracing a practice once considered seedy. A growing number of people are subjecting themselves to the whir of engine-driven needles spitting pigments into their body, tattoo artists said.

According to some published reports, around 20 percent of Americans aged 18 to 25 are getting tattooed. Skin motifs are increasingly shedding their subversive image, some tattoo artists said. And women, who were once scarce in tattoo parlors, now make up about half the clientele, they added.

"It used to be secret and underground," said a man who identified himself as R.J. "There's more tattoo shops than ever before ... anyone can order a kit and do it in his garage," said R.J., who owns the Tabu Tattoo shop in West Los Angeles.

The growing number of rockers, Hollywood celebrities and sports stars showing off tattoos spur young people to go under the needle, the artists and fans said.

"For a lot of younger people, tattooing has become part of life, like buying a pair of shoes," said Spider Webb, 60, who has published books on the art of tattooing since the 1970s. "It's like computers, no one used to have them, now everyone has; no one (they knew) had tattoos, now everyone has."

Webb said he no longer creates "artistic pieces," but instead tattoos to make money. Back in 1977, he tattooed 999 people with an outline of X on the thigh. The 1,000th person willing to have the tattoo got 1000 tiny x's creating the letter in a large shape.

Professionals were among the fans tattooed from neck to calf at the weekend convention. One was a 45-year-old nurse practitioner and another was a 44-year-old corporate securities lawyer who said he earned over $600,000 a year.

"No one will look at a large forearm (tattoo) piece and give it a second thought" in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, the attorney said. He acknowledged he wore a long-sleeve shirt at the office to cloak his markings.

Henning Jorgensen, 44, of Denmark said his clients included dentists, lawyers and bankers. One man paid $15,000 over three years for a motif of a samurai with a frog, drawn down the back from neck to calf. Now he wants the front side of his body done.

Jorgensen said he met a U.S. attorney at the convention who was willing to fly to Denmark to be tattooed by him.

Long-time tattoo photographer Charles Gatewood of San Francisco said: "It (tattooing) is so popular that it has lost some of its magic. It was like a club, a secret society and family. Now it's gotten commercialized, co-opted and watered down ... in the opinion of some people."


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Cheese, Moose, Sister; Chit/Chat; Humor; Miscellaneous; Test Topic, Ignore It; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: beendonetodeath; conformity; lookatme; tattoos; visualcliches
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1 posted on 05/16/2005 12:03:50 PM PDT by martin_fierro
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veteran tattoo artists at a New York convention on Saturday wondered if their once taboo artistry was losing its nonconformist lure.

Short answer: yes. It's like body piercings.

2 posted on 05/16/2005 12:08:15 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480
Nonconformist lure:


3 posted on 05/16/2005 12:12:25 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: martin_fierro

Wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to tape a "I am a loser" sign to your back?


4 posted on 05/16/2005 12:13:20 PM PDT by ambrose (NEWSWEAK LIED .... AND PEOPLE DIED)
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To: martin_fierro

The only good tattoo is the "enter here" tailbone tattoo for gals.


5 posted on 05/16/2005 12:15:13 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: martin_fierro
Webb said he no longer creates "artistic pieces," but instead tattoos to make money. Back in 1977, he tattooed 999 people with an outline of X on the thigh. The 1,000th person willing to have the tattoo got 1000 tiny x's creating the letter in a large shape

Regular Picasso this guy....

6 posted on 05/16/2005 12:24:14 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: pissant
Wrong portal....

Or is it port hole....

7 posted on 05/16/2005 12:25:18 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: freebilly

We have choices, ya know. ;o)


8 posted on 05/16/2005 12:25:57 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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So, you're for a womnan's right to choose...?


9 posted on 05/16/2005 12:45:03 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Santa Cruz Baseball!)
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To: freebilly

I usually choose for 'em. ;o)


10 posted on 05/16/2005 12:45:51 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: martin_fierro
As models flaunted head-to-toe body art and hard rock pulsated in a cavernous ballroom, veteran tattoo artists at a New York convention on Saturday wondered if their once taboo artistry was losing its nonconformist lure.

The Irony Police must still be after that Krispy Kreme truck thief.
11 posted on 05/16/2005 12:47:30 PM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: pissant

That round lower-back tattoo is referred to by my Rennies as "the coaster."


12 posted on 05/16/2005 12:48:26 PM PDT by Xenalyte (End women's suffrage! Hasn't the country suffered enough?)
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To: Xenalyte

I like it. ;o)


13 posted on 05/16/2005 12:49:09 PM PDT by pissant (Dead Terrorists are a good thing)
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To: martin_fierro
Here's a nice one.
14 posted on 05/16/2005 1:04:41 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Nuke the border!)
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To: martin_fierro
Get your children to specialize in plastic surgery. There will be billions upon billions to be made in the near and far future removing "body art".

The next generation is going to be soooooo embarassed by the bad decisions of their parents!

15 posted on 05/16/2005 1:26:22 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: martin_fierro

I never understood the allure of tattoos.


16 posted on 05/16/2005 2:37:10 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Xenalyte

As models flaunted head-to-toe body art and hard rock pulsated in a cavernous ballroom, veteran tattoo artists at a New York convention on Saturday wondered if their once taboo artistry was losing its nonconformist lure.

The Irony Police must still be after that Krispy Kreme truck thief.



Just watched a South Park rerun "The Raisans". One of the side story gags was the conformity of being a non-conformist Goth.

"In order to be one of us you have to wear the same clothes and listen to the same music." -- A Goth says to Stan

BTW, Butters falls in love with a Raisans' waitress.


17 posted on 05/17/2005 12:44:55 AM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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To: martin_fierro

I do think that many people are getting tattoos because they are the "in" thing to do. But many people are also getting them because they are more accepted today. Years ago when I saw someone with a tattoo i wanted to go and stare at it and touch it. i thought it was amazing. I do still think they are amazing and beautiful. and there are many more today I can look at. including the 2 i have on my back. i think they are fun


18 posted on 05/17/2005 9:51:47 AM PDT by trac220
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To: martin_fierro

I'm amazed at the number of people in Oklahoma (tattoos are still illegal here) who have tattoos. It just isn't worth it to me to plan a trip out of state to have some one draw on me.


19 posted on 05/17/2005 9:59:38 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: qam1

Gen-X PING


20 posted on 05/19/2005 11:27:49 AM PDT by weegee ("Do you want them to write a piece about how great the military is?" Elizabeth Bumiller - NY Times)
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