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Can a dietary supplement pick up the pieces? (joint pain)
NorthJerseyNewspapers ^ | 04.05.05 | CHARLES STUART PLATKIN

Posted on 04/07/2005 12:37:29 PM PDT by Coleus

Can a dietary supplement pick up the pieces?

Glucosamine, often recommended for joint pain, is one of the most popular supplements on the market. And considering the health concerns recently associated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications, I thought it would be worth looking into whether glucosamine lives up to the hype.

Background: Glucosamine and chondroitin are often combined together and used to treat osteoarthritis (OA), which occurs when the cartilage covering the end of the bone near the joint breaks down. OA affects the knees, backs, hips, hands and feet of more than 21 million people over age 45. And, according to Roland W. Moskowitz, M.D., professor of medicine at Case Western Reserve University's Arthritis Translational Research Program, about 90 percent of the population will suffer from OA by age 75.

The most common treatments for OA are nonprescription, nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) - pain relievers like Tylenol, ibuprofen or aspirin - as well as the prescription medications Vioxx, Bextra and Celebrex, which you've probably recently heard have significant cardiovascular concerns.

The risks and limitations of these drugs have led many OA sufferers to seek alternatives, including glucosamine, which has been used as a joint therapy for more than 20 years in Europe and has more recently been gaining popularity in the United States.

What is it? Glucosamine and chondroitin sulfate are substances produced by and found naturally in the body. Glucosamine is a form of amino monosaccharide (sugar) believed to play a role in cartilage formation and repair. Chondroitin sulfate is part of a large protein molecule that gives cartilage elasticity. The glucosamine and chondroitin in supplements are extracted from animal tissue: glucosamine from crab, lobster or shrimp shells, and chondroitin sulfate from animals such as sharks.

How it works: Glucosamine is believed to stimulate and repair joint cartilage, ease pain and slow deterioration. Chondroitin fights off harmful enzymes that destroy cartilage and simultaneously helps surviving cartilage retain water and elasticity. Most research, however, is focused on glucosamine. Many experts say we don't know the specifics of how it works. But "glucosamine has been shown to reverse several of the negative effects of interleukin-1 (IL-1) on the joints. IL-1 promotes both the joint-inflammation and joint-destruction processes in osteoarthritis by activating genes that carry the message for the synthesis of pro-inflammatory mediators and tissue-destructive mediators," claims Jean-Yves Reginster, M.D., Ph.D., director, World Health Organization Collaborating Center for Public Health Aspects of Rheumatic Diseases, University of Liege, Belgium.

Does it work? None of the studies provides a definitive answer, and researchers are split. Skeptics claim current research is invalid, that conclusions are flawed due to short-term follow-ups and dismal sample sizes. Supporters stand by the promising results. Past studies show that some people with mild to moderate OA taking either glucosamine or chondroitin sulfate reported pain relief similar to that of nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories, such as aspirin and ibuprofen. Some research also indicates that the supplements might slow cartilage damage in people with OA. In fact, the Arthritis Foundation believes there is emerging evidence that glucosamine is an appropriate treatment for people with OA of the knee, providing a number of benefits, such as symptom relief, improved function and a slowdown in the progression of cartilage damage.

According to Reginster, the original crystalline glucosamine sulfate 1,500-milligram once-a-day formulation, approved as a prescription drug in Europe and available as a specific, branded nutraceutical in the United States, "has been shown to be effective (in treating OA of the knee) in two separate, long-term clinical trials of three years duration. Besides symptom control, these two trials showed that the compound was able to delay the joint structural changes as assessed mainly by radiographic measuring of joint space narrowing. This would allow glucosamine sulfate to be possibly classified as the first disease-modifying agent in osteoarthritis."

In a key review completed by the Arthritis Center of Boston University School of Medicine and reported in the Journal of the American Medical Association, the authors analyzed all available glucosamine studies, concluding, "Trials of glucosamine and chondroitin preparations for OA symptoms demonstrate moderate to large effects, but quality issues and likely publication bias suggest that these effects are exaggerated. Nevertheless, some degree of efficacy appears probable for these preparations."

However, David Felson, M.D., M.P.H., professor of medicine at Boston University School of Medicine and one of the authors, has since modified his opinion: "Most of the successful trials were funded by industry, and all three of the public, nonindustry studies have shown no impact from using glucosamine. There's a good chance we've been hoodwinked." Keep in mind, he adds, that these trials, unlike pharmaceutical trials, don't require any Food and Drug Administration approval - meaning that FDA rules and regulations don't apply.

And finally, Paul Dieppe, former professor of rheumatology and now director of the MRC Health Services Research Collaboration at the University of Bristol, England, agrees with the skeptics, writing in an editorial in the British Medical Journal that, "The reviews and meta-analyses are dominated by trials done several years ago, many of which were particularly poor, and the quality of more recent studies is clearly better. ... We conclude that there is more confusion and hype than magic about glucosamine. The rationale for its use is unclear, the best dose and route of administration unknown, and the published trials do not allow any conclusion about its efficacy (let alone its cost effectiveness)."

Yet others take a more pragmatic approach. Moskowitz, for example, says, "There's enough evidence that you can't simply dismiss glucosamine." And according to C. Thomas Vangsness Jr., M.D., a surgeon and professor at the University of Southern California Keck School of Medicine in Los Angeles, about 25 percent of glucosamine users are probably experiencing a placebo effect, meaning they feel better, but it's not caused by the glucosamine. "And that's OK, too," he adds.

One of the most important studies - the Glucosamine/Chondroitin Arthritis Intervention Trial (GAIT) - is being conducted by the National Institutes of Health (NIH). This clinical trial focuses on the benefits of glucosamine for OA of the knee. In addition, the NIH trial will examine the effects of chondroitin sulfate and the combination of glucosamine and chondroitin, because in the United States glucosamine and chondroitin are frequently sold together.

Although the results will not be reported until the end of 2005, glucosamine advocates are already anticipating potential negative findings, claiming that GAIT is not testing the original glucosamine sulfate 1,500-milligram once-a-day formulation used in the other trials, but a previously untested capsule of 500 milligrams of glucosamine hydrochloride taken three times daily.

Is it safe? One thing about glucosamine no one disputes is that it's generally safe. The journal Food and Chemical Toxicology recently reviewed its effects on glucose metabolism, side effects and safety considerations and found, "Glucosamine is safe and does not affect glucose metabolism."

"It seems to be a very safe agent, and I do not discourage people from taking it," says Anisur Rahman, Ph.D., a senior lecturer in rheumatology at University College, London. There are, however, a few populations for whom it's not recommended, including women who are pregnant or breast-feeding and people with liver disease. Also, if you're allergic to shellfish, you should probably avoid it.

What's the right dose? Glucosamine advocates can't agree - some suggest 1,500 milligrams once per day; others say 500 milligrams three times per day. Glucosamine sulfate is suggested over glucosamine hydrochloride for best results. "The latter has been studied insufficiently in clinical trials, and the few studies conducted show fewer benefits than the original glucosamine sulfate," says Reginster.

And what you see isn't always what you get. An independent study by ConsumerLab.com found that some manufacturers were putting less glucosamine and chondroitin in their products than stated on the labels. Of the 25 brands tested, one-third failed. View the results at www.consumerlab.com/results/gluco.asp.

Bottom line: If you have OA, especially OA of the knee - why not try it?

Charles Stuart Platkin, a nutrition and public health advocate, is author of "The Automatic Diet" (Hudson Street Press, 2005) and founder of Integrated Wellness Solutions. Write to info@thedietdetective.com .



TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: arthritis; aspirin; bextra; celebrex; chondroitin; fibromyalgia; glucosamine; health; ibuprofen; inflamation; jointpain; joints; knees; nsaids; nutrition; osteoarthritis; painrelievers; prescriptions; supplements; tylenol; vioxx; vitamins
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To: Coleus

BUMP!


21 posted on 04/07/2005 3:04:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: backhoe
FWIW, the vet tells us that in dogs, relief is highly individuallistic-- some behave like a much younger dog, others get no relief at all.

I've heard the same thing. I've also heard that some think it works better in dogs than in people (don't know why that would be). Everyone (and every species :lol:) is different, guess the only way to know for sure if it works for each person/animal is to try it. It's mostly harmless stuff, too, so if it doesn't work the only thing lost is the money to buy it...

I'm really happy it works for the animals in my family (dog and DH :lol:).

LQ

22 posted on 04/07/2005 3:04:44 PM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: Petronski
I just read about that in the NY Daily News yesterday, Wednesday. http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/297162p-254226c.html I've read it elsewhere, I'm going to try it.

and they think Teresa Heinz Kerry is nuts for believing in that http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/245654p-210237c.html
23 posted on 04/07/2005 5:11:48 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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To: Coleus
Gin-Soaked Raisins for Arthritis

We don't know why it works but many readers swear this remedy relieves arthritis pain. Ingredients: golden raisins and gin. Empty the raisins into a bowl and pour in just enough gin to cover the raisins. Allow the gin to evaporate (about one week) and then place the moist raisins in a jar with a lid. Eat nine raisins a day. They go well on cereal!

That's right. Must be golden raisins, and always nine per day.

I wonder if it's an urban legend. Not eight or ten but nine.

24 posted on 04/07/2005 5:15:05 PM PDT by Petronski (I thank God Almighty for a most remarkable blessing: John Paul the Great.)
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To: Petronski

http://arthritis.about.com/od/alternativetreatments/f/raisinsgin.htm?terms=gin+raisins


25 posted on 04/07/2005 5:18:55 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The veterinarians have been using it successfully for 30 years on animals with great success. Sure beats getting a heart problem using bextra.
26 posted on 04/07/2005 5:31:28 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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Vitamins
27 posted on 04/07/2005 5:31:52 PM PDT by Coleus (God Bless our beloved Pope John Paul II, May he Rest in Peace)
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To: Coleus; All
The stuff is a godsend, and my husband and I swear by it. We are not nutjobs, I promise.

So here's the deal. My husband had a bacterial infection in his spine when he was a teenager. It left him with arthritis in his back. I have suffered a couple of serious falls, which have messed up my lower back. I also was in a wreck ten years ago (NOT my fault!), that reversed the curve in my neck. I now have bone spurs and arthritis in my neck. As bad as all that sounds, we are only 35. G/C really has worked miracles for us. When we take it, we have no problems at all.
28 posted on 04/07/2005 9:02:34 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green is made of liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott

Hay, it's kind of late, isn't it?


29 posted on 04/07/2005 9:08:44 PM PDT by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: teenyelliott

Hi, teeny, just checked out your page. Nice job. You copied my flags, cheater.


30 posted on 04/07/2005 9:10:54 PM PDT by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: llama hunter

go here to see which brands where tested... (click link)
http://www.consumerlab.com/results/gluco.asp

What CL Found:
Among the products that ConsumerLab.com selected and tested, problems were found only among combination products, four of which were low in chondroitin sulfate — a particularly expensive ingredient. These four products are listed as "Not Approved" in the table below and had the following short-comings:
One product, for human use, claimed to contain 500 mg per serving of "Chondroitin sulfate complex" which ConsumerLab.com's testing showed to contain less than 90 mg of chondroitin sulfate — only 18% of the 500 milligrams. ConsumerLab.com has cautioned consumers in the past to be wary of supplements with ingredients that include words such as "complex," "formula," or "blend" when the weight of each component is not listed. While it may be legal for a manufacturer to use these terms, ConsumerLab.com often finds such information misleading to consumers.
A second product for human use contained less than 85% of its claimed chondroitin sulfate.
Shockingly, no chondroitin sulfate could be detected in two pet supplements despite each displaying a "guaranteed analysis" showing a significant amount of chondroitin sulfate. [Update — 7/21/04: A new, re-formulated version of one of the pet supplements that did not pass was subsequently tested at the request of manufacturer. It passed testing and is listed below].


31 posted on 04/07/2005 9:37:34 PM PDT by stlnative
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32 posted on 04/07/2005 9:39:42 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Coleus

I'd read about the studies, and tried it. Gave me joint pain all over. But that figures, I usually fall in that "reported by less than 1 per cent of study" group.


33 posted on 04/08/2005 12:14:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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To: Coleus

Whoops. I meant to add, what does work for me is liquid minerals (the colloidal, trace mins). Takes a couple of weeks to work, then one morning, no more "uhhh" sound as I get out of bed. ;')


34 posted on 04/08/2005 12:15:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Deviance or rebellion without consequences is conformity.)
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To: Petronski

I've always wondered if it was the gin - it hurts, but you don't notice ;) .

LQ


35 posted on 04/08/2005 8:31:26 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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To: LizardQueen

“We both recently starting taking MSM, too - a lot of companies compound all 3 into 1 pill”

YES - just bought some Rexall brand at Dollar General today - not only is it glucosamine, chrondroitin and MSM, but it also has collagen and vitamin C and manganese! Labeled as triple strength - a month’s worth was $7.50.


36 posted on 01/28/2011 8:22:36 PM PST by llandres
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