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It was wrong to kill her. [JimRob on Terri Schiavo]
FreeRepublic ^ | April 3, 2005 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/04/2005 8:35:23 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater

Jim Robinson is the founder and operator of FreeRepublic.com.
He posted this editorial on Terri Schiavo, Sunday April 3rd.



I said it was wrong to kill her. That is my opinion. Nothing can change it. No list of "facts" will ever change it.

And I put "facts" in quotes because most of the so-called "facts" posted here were in fact "opinion." Whether it was a poster's opinion, a reporter's opinion, her husband's opinion, a relative's opinion, a supporter's opinion, a detractor's opinion, a politician's opinion, a lawyer's opinion, a doctor's opinion, the president's opinion, the governor's opinion, or even the judge's opinion - they were and are all opinions.

And none of them are incontrovertible or indisputable fact.

In fact, they continue calling in more doctors and more experts to give their opinion even after it's all said and done. In this battle of press, public, politicians, doctors, lawyers and "experts" the side with the most thumbs down votes won and she was killed. What was it, two out of three or three out of five? How about we go for seven out of twelve? How about one "no" vote out of twelve and you don't execute?

The last I heard, in this country when you are on trial for your life, if there is one doubtful juror, you don't receive a death sentence. The accused receives the benefit of the doubt. Of course, Terri did not even receive the benefit of a trial much less the benefit of the doubt. She was simply snuffed out per a judge's order based on three out of five expert "opinions." It's a shame and a disgrace and a mockery of justice.

4,413 posted on 04/03/2005 7:18:29 PM EDT by Jim Robinson



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To: Jrabbit

Thanks J. I don't have Dish Network; but if I get it, I will keep that station in mind.


181 posted on 04/05/2005 7:15:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Jrabbit

Sorry, maam :)

I haven't watched television in a couple of years and am only familiar with the biography series on the History Channel. Thank you for enlightening me.


182 posted on 04/05/2005 7:31:04 AM PDT by Misty Memory (Making a mental note.)
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To: Misty Memory

I had no idea there was a Biography Channel until last night.....lol.


183 posted on 04/05/2005 7:39:26 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: SoothsayerToo

There are some things worth debating and there are other things which are too absurd to debate. Obviously DU opinions, which are contrary in the extreme in many cases here on FR, are quickly zotted.

Murder is murder in any vernacular, and it should be expressly so here. No other opinion should need apply. There is no "crossing the line" as you put it in refusing to listen to people who advocate murder expound on their position.

THAT is absurd.


184 posted on 04/05/2005 7:41:21 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Future Useless Eater; Jim Robinson

Eloquent, elegant, and uncommonly common-sensical. God bless those who see through the fog of psychobabble and legalese into the heart of the matter: "It was wrong to kill her."


185 posted on 04/05/2005 7:43:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: PISANO
What I want to know is what happened to our culture, our nation.......... in just 60 years. What was once a war crime is hailed today as a constitutional right.

Well, good point. If you went to someone in 1900 and said, "by 1973, we would be aborting babies for no good reason (like saving the mother's life) by the millions." you'd get laughed at or scoffed at. If go to 1979 and said, "by 2003, there will be a move to allow homosexual marriage," you would have been laughed at. I was 13 in 1979, I was one of the ones laughing at the idea when it was brought up then. If you go to 1979 again and said, "in 2005, a lady who had some brain damage but otherwise healthy and not terminal will be starved to death by judicial fiat," again, you would have been laughed at. It looks like the joke is on us and we have become suckers as a society and in many cases, it is a deadly joke. B-(
186 posted on 04/05/2005 7:43:59 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian - Any Questions?)
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To: Jrabbit

Ahh...so, I'm not that out of touch!


187 posted on 04/05/2005 7:50:00 AM PDT by Misty Memory (Making a mental note.)
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To: This Just In
Let us agree that no individual is ever a vegetable, despite terms that attempt to describe a person as such...This terminology serves only to dehumanize an individual, thus making it all the more easier to terminate a life.

I too cringe whenever I hear someone described as a "vegetable."

Sadly, many in the public have glommed on to that word, the way they glommed on to the similarly dehumanizing "fetus."

It's a huge propaganda victory for the Culture of Death, that they have had such popular success with their Orwellian use of language.

We've witnessed many Orwellian moments in the last couple of weeks.

One of the most hilarious, if it were not so seriously wrong, was Dan Abrams's insistence that "starvation" is not "starvation" --if it's the patient's "choice" to undergo it.

Kind of like, a "baby" is not a "baby" -- unless it's the mother's "choice."

188 posted on 04/05/2005 7:55:47 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: lula; All

Lula, "the rule of law" isn't always moral. Remember, Hitler and his minions changed German laws, and thus the holocaust was committed under "the rule of law;" in our own country, slavery was permitted under "the rule of law." Imagine, in those days, a person could OWN another person, like livestock or furniture. And it was legal.

That didn't make it right, no matter WHAT "the rule of law" was. Killing Terri is another abomination of a "rule of law" that should never have been.

That it was perpetrated in large part by a Republican judge makes me nervous about the March for Justice: will we also march against Republicans like this murdering judge, or only the liberal ones? I want ALL the bad judges thrown out, d*mn the political affiliations.


189 posted on 04/05/2005 8:02:00 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

Forcing black people to use different rest rooms and drinking fountains was also a law at one time. There is no excuse for 'just following orders' when something is as obscene as this case with poor Terri was.


190 posted on 04/05/2005 8:17:52 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Future Useless Eater

Thanls for posting this.


191 posted on 04/05/2005 9:06:47 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: freepertoo

I am old enough to remember those days. Those who use only the "rule of law" to guide their lives, live cold, soulless lives.


192 posted on 04/05/2005 9:18:53 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

Yep. Just ask the nazis. Or go to their next of kin, the people who just condemned an innocent handicapped woman to death by using cruel and unusual punishment. Or anyone who supports what they did (several on this board).


193 posted on 04/05/2005 9:23:13 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: sauropod

review later


194 posted on 04/05/2005 9:24:59 AM PDT by sauropod (Life under Dictatorship is far more safer, than behind the bars of your democracy. - Iraq Mujahadeen)
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To: freepertoo
Just ask the nazis.

Shhhhhh. You're not supposed to mention the connection between Germanys forced starvation of it's own disabled and imperfect population to what's going on in the US today.

It makes some Freepers very uncomfortable and they start their own clubs and whine about it :)

195 posted on 04/05/2005 9:33:27 AM PDT by katnip
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To: pickyourpoison

bttt


196 posted on 04/05/2005 10:03:25 AM PDT by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: freepertoo

The U.S. Supreme Court once ruled that Black people (Dred Scott) were NOT HUMAN!!!!! Those who participated in the killing of Terri HAD to believe she was not human or else they could not have justified their actions.


197 posted on 04/05/2005 10:05:51 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Rest in Peace, Theresa Marie SCHINDLER - IMPEACH JUDGE GREER!!!!!!!)
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To: Future Useless Eater; Jim Robinson

Thank you for posting this. Well said!


198 posted on 04/05/2005 10:19:47 AM PDT by msp2004
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To: katnip

You got that right. Just leave if FR is not for you. Read FR's homepage and if you can't agree with it, then FR is probably not for you. No need to write an OPUS. I see where they have tried to start their own group on Yahoo....it is the usual suspects. Not very many of them but they parrot the same lines over and over again.


199 posted on 04/05/2005 10:23:28 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (The Terri issue is legally complicated, but not the moral issue. I want to be on the side of life.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

I find it particularly amusing that some of them complained that they were treated rudely--and these same ones flamed pro-lifers mercilessly. Some can't take what they dish out, one suspects.


200 posted on 04/05/2005 10:30:29 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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