Posted on 03/31/2005 7:39:11 AM PST by 1stFreedom
For over a decade I’ve tried to convince people in the pro-life movement that leaving the Republican Party wasn’t a good move. The past few days has changed my mind, and I started to write this article when the news broke that Terri died.
Florida has shown us that the best that the GOP has to offer is a losing strategy.
For decades abortion has remained “legal” due to the same problems which were present in Florida: an arrogant judiciary and an unwilling executive branch.
The call for Jeb to refuse to enforce the illicit orders of Judge Greer went unheeded. As a direct result, Jeb’s actions sanctioned the starvation of Terri Schiavo. His Pontius Pilate approach to saving her life hasn’t fooled the pro-life base.
His public denial that there wasn’t anything more he could do was a slap in the face to the pro-life movement and to Terri’s parents. It is well known that he indeed had these ORDINARY powers as the Governor of the State of Florida.
If this is the strategy the GOP has to reign in the Judiciary, then it’s time to find another party. It is simply not acceptable that someone could be starved to death in the United States of America with “legal” sanction.
But where does one go? Many of the alternative parties are too idealistic or too focused on history to reach a broad spectrum of people. And some of the names are quite silly….
In my mind, an ideal third party candidate would appeal to socially conservative Republicans, Regan democrats, and minorities. A coalition party can indeed win…
What are your thoughts?
Don't let the door hit you on the way out but my guess is that you have not been a Republican from the postings I have been reading. Another 3rd party person pretending to be Republican so you can put up more vanities and leave the Party again -- isn't that nice. But then this has been the agenda all along -- it became obvious after the first few days that some of you all had another topic on which to trash the Bush Family and Republicans.
What's your screen name going to be next? You forget some of us have been around here for a long time and recognize the rant whatever the subject! :)
You know, that is a very good point. And the seasoned FReepers who are best geared to put these kinds of arguments down have sadly migrated over to a single thread. I think we need them back out here.
Name one thing he accomplished other than offering sympathy to the Schindlers.
You are correct. That's why the strategy needs to be - "take back the GOP."
Exactly, and it is worse as they would be winning with 40% of the vote. (The Libertarians do take some Democratic votes though - those who support civil liberties and are not religious, but believe in free enterprise)
It could be said that ultra-liberal splinter groups could be helping the Republicans as well...
IT'S TIME TO TAKE BACK THE GOP!
I find it a little offensive that you compare Terri's to the persecution of Jesus Christ. And what ORDINARY powers did Jeb have to overturn a court order vindicated by the appellate process? The simple facts of the matter are that the court had the power to decide this case either way, made a decision that many of us disagree with, but not one that constituted an error of fact or law, and that a tragic situation came to a tragic, but lawful end.
Good strategy. Let Hillary win. You can then say ha ha ha to the GOP as you lose your country.
The Libertarian party is full of nuts..
Some of it's principles are ok, but it's one of those parties which are too idealized for the general public to accept.
Perot was an obvious nutcase, ran awful campaigns, and still pulled a fifth of the electorate, on an incoherent populist platform.
We have, as a nation, some critical problems to solve - illegal immigration, massive wealth redistribution, denial of almost all the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, and government spending, just to name some big ones - where there is no path to a solution through either major party.
A third party that is not crazy like the LP, and not a single-issue party, and not based on a single personality, has a lot of room to work with.
Speaking of Pontius Pilate, where were you in this debate? Why were you not down there in St Pete using your ordinary powers as a citizen to make a citizen's arrest of the people killing Terri?
This thread does have that feel about it, doesn't it?
Really? Well, then, welcome!
We know now who we can count on to be brave in the face of evil. They are still advancing in the proper direction, as opposed to the alternative. The more true conservatives we get into Congress, the less this will happen with time. Get 60 conservatives into the Senate, and you will see a difference. We already have a solid majority of conservatives in the House, and they are led by a good man, Tom Delay.
Bush had a chance to have one of those moments that show his greatness. We learned what Reagan had inside when he fired the air traffic controllers, and took the heat initially for that. But when people realized that he was taking a principled stand and staying with it in the face of media pressure, they went with him. That same steady resolve is what led to the fall of the Soviet Union, to reform of the tax code, and to the love that the nation showed for him when he died. Bush is doing very well in the war on terror. But he has fallen short.
Thoughtomator says,"Start a new party... it's been proven time and time again that there is a huge underrepresented segment of the electorate just waiting to vote against the establishment if given a chance."
I say, "Forget it, it's also been proven time and time again that a third party just doesn't fly. Stick with the GOP, and work from within. Nothing in this life is ever going to be perfect. We have to do the best with what we've got, and we sure don't want to work for or with the Democrats."
Pulling votes away from Republicans and electing Democrats would get us more justice? I think you may need to adjust those meds.
We got to this point because of Liberal Democrats. Playing into their hands right now is stupid! Use your brains--don't just get mad - get even. Harry Reid and his band of anti-American garbage need to see and hear an outpouring of rage from the American people. He's set to filibuster judicial nominees so we can continue to get more of these murderous activist judges into our court system. It's time to "clean house" not give in to them. Channel your energy into fighting the Liberals not giving them what they want! They want the Republican Party in disarray. In my book, no way!
The 2 party cabal stranglehold on the USA will be tough to break..
Stick with the pubbies and try to turn them is the only other choice..and I dont know which would be easier or even possible
The only other choice is to simply disengage from all of them
but if you have kids and grandkids...well that isn't really a option is it.
imo
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